We are supposed to call them "people of color." Why not "colored people?"

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  1. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    It seems a certain level of ignorance hampers ones ability to understand things. Meh...you tried.
     
  2. Conservative Democrat

    Conservative Democrat Well-Known Member

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    What don't I understand?
     
  3. Conservative Democrat

    Conservative Democrat Well-Known Member

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    This comment seems to be aimed at me. I do not pretend to know everything, but I make a reasonable effort to inform myself. What don't I know that if I learned would change attitudes of mine that you find objectionable?
     
  4. dairyair

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    Why not refer to them as just people? Skip the labels altogether.

    You were told about the n word ending in r. It has become an extremely negative word used by racists.
    As for blacks using the word amongst themselves, one can't be racist against oneself.

    Bottom line is, choose words that are not considered disrespectful to another. Unless of course, disrespect is the reason for using it.
     
  5. dairyair

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    Maybe it's not so much the word you use/choose.
    But in how you intend it when using it. Such as the above quote of yours.
     
  6. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The problem with using words which are considered offensive, like when a white person calls a black man with the "n" word. Maybe its best if you learn in real life.
     
  7. ECA

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    I think that is the only way he will learn, except that he wouldn't dare talk that way to someone in person. He's like many on social media who talk much differently sitting at a keyboard than they do in person.
     
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    Yes, you did.
     
  9. Jolly Penguin

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    Correct. Earned titles. You don't and should not have any right to control my speech otherwise, and even with the honorifics it is debatable.
     
  10. Natty Bumpo

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    I just respect a person's right to be called by whatever term he prefers, and try to treat all individuals without racial bias.
     
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    If you like to refer to all Lithuanians as "bandicoots," you can indulge yourself without fear of undo coercion, but language functions because of generally agreed-upon terminologies.
     
  12. Jolly Penguin

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    Again, correct. So long as the listener understands the intended meaning, language functions. Compelled speech can get in the way of that.

    When I was forced to say the Lord's Prayer every morning in grade school all those years ago, it may have created the impression that I believed a God exists even though I was an atheist.

    If Joe changes names to Josephine, and Mike is forced to call this person "her" that may create the impression that Mike sees this person as a woman when Mike does not.
     
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    Josephine has a right to self-identity, no matter what Mike wants to impose upon her.
     
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    Again, correct. Josephine has every right to self identify, no matter what Mike may want to impose upon her.

    Josehpine does and should NOT however have the right to force Mike to regard Josephine accordingly. Mike should have the right to his own thoughts and against his compelled speech against those throughts.

    Josephine can call herself she and ask others to do so. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. Many people will politely do so, even if they don't agree she is a woman, but nobody should be forced to. Just as I should not have been forced to say the Lord's Prayer every morning as a child who didn't believe any of it. Today I may bow my head when people declare they will say a prayer, out of kindness. I may even say "Amen" afterwards, but I am not and should not be forced to. Same applies here.
     
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    How? Explain this to me.
     
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    Read your posts. You implied that cons always pull out the I have a black friend when they feel cornered. I don't feel that way, and I told you why. You then mocked me by saying, "cool story".
     
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    Jeweneze doesn't make sense....so....
     
  18. CKW

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    Asian is too broad a term to be useful. Oriental clarifies. I actually didn't realize some thought it was out dated.
     
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    One can have a low opinion of one's race.
     
  20. Conservative Democrat

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    For me "Oriental" is a term of respect. Generally speaking I prefer Orientals to people of my own race. Orientals have higher average IQ's and lower rates of crime and illegitimacy than whites.
     
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    The terms come from the French Revolution, and specifically the seating arrangements of parliament during that time, with the radical 'reformists' sitting on the left side of the house, the conservative 'establishmentarians' on the right. The association with 'satanic evil' comes from the attempts to ban Christianity immediately following the revolution, where church property was 'redistributed to the people' (handed over the the wealthiest radicals), most of the priests were exiled, the rest were executed, and the new govt mandated observance of the new state religion, 'The Cult of the Supreme Being.'

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dechristianization_of_France_during_the_French_Revolution
     
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    Whether that opinion is useful is questionable.
     
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    I wasn't mocking you at all, I legitimately thought it was a cool story so I don't know the hell you arrived at me mocking you. Come on now.
     
  24. dairyair

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    Or it's just a way of conversation.
    There are people who throw the f word out in almost every sentence they say.
     
  25. Green Man

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    Negro?

    Should I fly off the handle when somebody refers to me as Caucasian?

    You know, for equity
     
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