We Don’t Need No Stinking Vaccine for Covid-19

So now you admit the economy was great until Covid . Good boy.

 

You don't know any of this for sure because nobody does at this point. These diseases evolve. The 1918 flu was fairly mild on everyone until the second strike took MAINLY young and healthy people and like 50 million of them worldwide

Stop pushing what may be another Black Death because you want to go bowling.[/QUOTE]
Black Death? Lmao
More fear mongering. The virus is only dangerous to sick old people with very rare exception.

 

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yep, and Trump blew it, Trump was riding the Obama wave..... but debt was still rising like crazy cause of Trump's tax cuts for the rich

when the fed had to start dumping so much money into the economy, I knew Trump was lying to us

some say Trump created this virus crisis to give the mega corps trillions, to try to postpone the economic crash till after he was out of office

 

~ Thankfully Trump did much better - and he did not give insurance companies a free ride. It appears he will do it once again in spite of the Wuhan virus catastrophe and the obstructing Capitol Hill Democrats.

~ The disaster in Puerto Rico , infrastructure, rebuilding the military and the Wuhan virus catastrophe has nothing to do with tax cuts to anyone. It is necessary and essential spending long overdue.

 

So far and you hope

What is it that comes around again?

 

A standing order from the DNC is no matter what Trump did to say, Trump blew it. I know it... you know it... everyone knows it.

 

Some say what? Lmao
You people have reached a new level of TDS

 

~ Trump Tower Typhoid is a dead rumor. It was started by the jealous owner of the Soup Nazi kitchen down the street .

 

Congrats on your appointment to the higher echelons of the DNC, from which you have derived this intimate knowledge of their standing orders

Or maybe my mama told you... After all, everybody knows

 

NO SOUP FOR YOU!!

TTT is no real problem. It only strikes the old and those whose immune systems have been compromised by years of defecating on gold toilets. The entire syndrome is unknown since the main symptom is that the patient lies about everything.

 

Trump has a bad case of TDS, he is patient zero, why the disease is named after him, is he contagious?

let's vote him out in 2020, too many on the left and right are at risk of becoming infected

 

Fearless leader has the answer. Orange Buffoon brand snake oil.

 

Interesting article. The longer we lock down - the bigger the economic Tsunami that is coming will be - which will result in a fair number of deaths - so it is a catch 22 of pandemic proportions.

I say we need to get this show on the road asap. Waiting for say 6 months longer will be a disaster.

Consumer spending is the backbone of the economy ... and that has taken a serious hit - with no rosy upside on the horizon.

 

~ We now know who the vulnerable are and how to protect them. There is much more test kits available. That will likely make a big difference. ✔

 

And ultimately as with all liberals that have been soundly thrashed in debate on any subject you have nothing left but , orange man bad. LMAO

 

I agree with the above. The main reason given us for the lockdown was

1) overwhelming the hospitals.
2) No idea how fast the spread would be or how lethal this virus would be
3) we were not prepared - sucks to have to choose who lives and who dies because you do not have enough ventilators.

All three of the above issues are valid reasons for the lockdown.- and drastic times call for drastic measures but, the issues above no longer exist - (we know where this thing targets - and are now prepared - and hospitals are no where near overwhelmed) and these are no longer drastic times.

Keep the lockdown in place for long enough however, and we will again face drastic times - not from Corona but from the economic Tsunami that is coming.

This is now the big "unknown" rather than Corona. What we do know is that Tsunami is coming but we don't know the size - what we also know is that the longer the lockdown remains in place - the bigger that Tsunami will be.

As was the case after 911 - something has changed - and we will perhaps never again return to full normal.

 

yep, first you attack posters, saying they have TDS, then you say this... look in the mirror for a change - lol

 

Yes, it is time for everyone to get back to work.
The lockdown has been a disaster for ordinary working class Americans.
It will take years to clean up the mess created by this jackass government boondoggle.

 

Years may be an optimistic scenario. This lockdown might go on for another 6 months - a "partial lockdown" does not help us much. Talked to someone who knows a person with company that had cleaning contracts with Hotels - went from 150 staff to 30. Many hotels thrive on conventions - and these are not happening. Nor concerts - nor travel - and so on - and this is just one segment of the market.

As we speak - accountants are figuring out how much they could save by having more people working from home - and the numbers are big-decreasing the amount of office space they need. Retail shops are suffering - many big chains are reducing in size or going under - The commercial property market is going to suffer.

This is why I say "all or nothing" a partial lockdown is near just as bad as the full lockdown

The shale oil ponzi scheme finally erupted - that sector is a disaster - and we have just scratched the surface.

How long are we going to be in partial lockdown mode ?

 

Much of the economic damage will be permanent. Many of the closed businesses and the jobs they created will never come back.
Beyond that this lock down is destroying the herd immunities that have always been the first and last line of defense for mankind when we are confronted with deadly pandemics.
We are setting the stage for new pandemics and making the so far uninfected more vulnerable to the Wuhan Virus with every day that these irrational lockdowns continue.

"Furthermore, if the economic collapse continues, we may expect new famines in Africa and India that could threaten many tens to hundreds of thousands of lives, if not more. And this is not to mention the fact that we are losing vast sums of tax money and borrowing power every day by paying large proportions of our national populaces to stay home. This is money that we could be investing in our public health care systems in order to increase capacity, improve treatments and facilities, fund new government vaccines and antibiotic development programmes, etc. So it is very likely that with all these added “lockdown deaths” and the catastrophic loss of public money to spend on health care and vaccines, we are producing a significant net loss of life which will by far outweigh any lives that one might claim to have been saved by the lockdowns (which is a questionable claim at best, as we have seen). Surely it cannot now be the case that Covid-19 deaths are the only deaths that matter any more? Looking at all causes of death and suffering in this world together, an intelligent person should conclude that lockdowns are definitively a net-negative policy for our society and for the globe."
LOCKDOWN SCEPTICS, The Left-Wing Case Against Lockdowns, By Mr Alexis FitzGerald, 14 May 2020.
https://lockdownsceptics.org/the-left-wing-case-against-lockdowns/

 

I agree that much of the damage will be permanent - and many jobs will not come back. Exxon just announced 5-10% job cuts workforce in the US after saying a few months ago "no layoffs". Exxon makes most of its money from its retail operations which are doing fine - Refiners are doing very well these days - so if these guys are laying people off - what are publicly traded corps not doing so well contemplating - such as oil companies who have no retail exposure - oil production or - god forbid having significant exposure to shale oil.

I Don't think we are destroying herd immunity so much as we are delaying the creation of herd immunity - and the quicker you develop this - the quicker the containment of this particular strain of the virus - but since it is similar in ways to a cold virus - its mutant forms will be with us for a long time - we will all likely get some variant of this virus at some point - or some other different strain.

You have heard of "The Da Vinci Code" - I recommend a book called "The Germ Code" - which talks about the history of antibiotics and so on - how bacteria have evolved defenses against these agents "superbugs". This is what nature does - its how nature works.

When we talk of wars - and you have the chest pounder's that think a nuclear war is winnable.. living the dream of past glory - rarely are the biological options considered - which are available to non nuclear nations .. but something that has to come into consideration when attacking nations like Iran - along with numerous other factors.

but I digress .. at some point most everyone is going to get a nasty flue ... be it covid or some other nasty. There are some from all age groups but most of the people dying from Covid are very old people who were ready to go at any moment - and very old people in general.

Gov't is in paralysis right now - not willing to make the hard choices - and face the hard math. Who wants to be the Mayor or congressman who opened up and inevitable "outbreaks" happened. "Outbreaks" which we seem quite able to contain from spreading too rapidly.

The longer we wait - the bigger the economic Tsunami is going to be. Social unrest - especially in hard hit nations - could well kill more than die from Covid.

 

When presidential candidates publicly announce a preference for nuclear war to losing an election ordinary Americans need to be very suspicious of any man-made catastrophe especially this economic lockdown in an election year.

"We have developed complete tunnel vision on one cause of death, and forgotten or relegated all of the other causes of human death and suffering. We are now casually discussing the possibility of new famines in Africa and India and of economic bailouts three times the size of the 2008 economic crash, after just one month of lockdown. These outcomes are by no means guaranteed by the appearance of Covid-19 itself. This is the shocking result of lockdown policy, and a stark reminder of how disastrous public policy can be in the wrong hands. The economy is not just some toy for the ultra-rich (although aspects of it can be, e.g. stock markets), it is also crucial to the continued prosperity and flourishing of average working families. Therefore, the flippant dismissal of economic concerns by some on the left is a massive mistake, the consequences of which will be suffered for generations, and the weight of which will fall particularly on the shoulders of young people like myself. This has never been about life versus money, it has always been about life versus life."
LOCKDOWN SCEPTICS, The Left-Wing Case Against Lockdowns, By Mr Alexis FitzGerald, 14 May 2020.
https://lockdownsceptics.org/the-left-wing-case-against-lockdowns/

July 4th had better be the next Independence Day for Americans.
The People united should hit the streets and take back their liberty.