We Will Get The Answers When We Get To Heaven.

Nobody knows what tomorrow brings. If you get on a jet for Europe, there's no guarantee you'll arrive. So after all that everyone can do, you go with faith and hope.

 

if there was a heaven, not only would you not get the answers, you would be brainwashed not to even ask the questions, you would be brainwashed to forget your loved ones were sent to hell by God - can't be a happy place if your questioning authority and missing\upset about what is happening to your loved ones

 

Great post JAG. All excellent advice for a just cause. He has fitted us out. So we will wait upon him, even to the end.

 

It is the blitz of mortal senses, tradition, and the world into which we are born and steeped that is the cult. So God is the intercessor for our retrieval. The choice though is ours.

 

I think the heaven God *poofs* us to when we die is more of the plan B. Plan A is we use the creativity of The Creator in whose image we are made along with the teachings of His son, Jesus to build heaven ourselves, meet God on equal terms and 'shake hands' as it were. Some folks call my theory that we mere humans could ever be 'god' blasphemous, but what father doesnt want his children to fulfill their potential? If we combine our empathy and compassion with our capacity for innovation and discovery, our potential is limitless. Or at least only limitable by God. And it seems free will is the name of the game now, so I think its up to us to build heaven.

...but we could also build hell. I expect if we do that, the *poof* heaven will become an option.

 

the universal oneness, is that to what you refer to as a God?

 

You could say that. But I was referring to Jesus Christ under the direction of his Father in heaven.

 

I'm pretty sure that he has already established the terms or parameters for our ascension to godhood. It begins with faith in him, then repentance and baptism by one having authority to do so.

 

Perhaps. I'll never claim to know for certain (tune me out if I do!). But it makes sense to me that we want our children to succedd in their own path as opposed to the one we lay out for them because we are made in the image of the God that wants the same thing for us. But then again, I'm still just human, so I could be wrong.

 

There is a difference between faith in something with a proven track record like the reliability of air travel and having faith that something exists for which there is no evidence.

 

That's what the wildebeasts think when crossing the crocodile infested river. In fact, each journey is a law unto itself. And what is the great scary philosophy of Christianity? It is essentially to apologize and to forgive. Such is to love God and your fellowman. But what if you are wrong and it is all a hoax, and you have spent your life in kindness when you could have spent it running roughshod over everything. Like, which one is the waste/hoax?

 

My approach to life is simple and uncomplicated.

I start with "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God"
{see 2 Timothy 3:14-17} and then I build my worldview on
simple Bible verses. Doing that prevents one from going to
far into the speculation area and reaching unorthodox
conclusions.

Plus it makes living life much easier and much more enjoyable
and it gets rid of the tendency of fallen human nature to "push
the envelope" and delve into strange and bizarre beliefs.

The Bible teaches that humans will never become equal to God
the Father. However, we who have saving faith in the Lord Jesus,
will be conformed to His image, that is, we will gradually become
like the Lord Jesus and come to possess His good qualities such
as courage, love, faith, hope, joy, etc

JAG

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Thinks Injeun.
And amen to the good point you made up there.

JAG

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I agree that the Bible is inspired by God. But I think there is much allegory in it that is mistaken for literalism.

 

I like the message of forgiveness and love in the Christian faith. Unfortunately it gets lost in the translation most of the time.

 

I still don’t think there is an equivalency between faith in something for which there is no reproducible evidence and trust which is the ability to rely on something based on past experiences.

 

I guess that faith is like an experiment that can lead to trust if the experiment in faith is successful.

 

▬ Agreed.
▬ And even good motivated speculation is harmless as long as
we know that its good motivated speculation. For example, I
believe that the human race is now in its infancy and that time
will endure for a huge number of millenniums before human
history comes to an end. That belief is a natural outgrowth of
my Christian eschatology, which is Postmillennialism.

Postmillennialism holds that the world will be gradually and
incrementally Christianized BEFORE the Lord Jesus returns
and ends human earthly history. This position obviously requires
long periods of time. In fact I have zero problems believing that
human earthly history will last for say 500,000 years or even
much longer.

Postmillennialism is a very bright cheerful optimistic Christian
Eschatology.

Best Regards.

JAG

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Indeed.

Also, heavenly bliss is a "very bright cheerful optimistic Christian eschatology."

All good sales points!

 

It will be interesting to see how humans look after we survive the current massive extinction event.