Weatherman attacked on NYC subway as assaults on public transit skyrocket

This is why crime is on the increase.
https://cnycentral.com/news/local/w...fox-news-adam-klotz-subway-light-rail-transit

Dude saves old man from teens setting his hair on fire. They beat him up. Cops catch teens then let them go because. Just because.

"Law enforcement detained three of the suspects, but ultimately ended up letting them go, according to Klotz.

I’m told they’ll probably get some sort of summons and that might be the end of it,” he pointed out."

Anyone want to lay odds on the teens beating someone else up soon? Maybe kill someone next time? No one wants to hold the parents responsible?

 

The manner in which we deal with criminals is absurd.

 

That doesn't really explain, "why crime is on the increase." Because there are fewer Metro Police on trains? Has that number decreased every year, since 2008, when incidents began rising, and were they then slashed every year, beginning in 2016, when such incidents began exploding? It seems more likely, that there has been more encouragement of such behavior, rather than simply less protection against it.

To be clear, there is no excuse for youths who beat up a person, as described in the article, not to be held accountable, to the law. Unfortunately, your article was not up to the standard of real news reporting; that is, it is based on only the victim's version of events, and of the legal investigatory repercussions. It did not even bother to contact the Transit Authority, or NYPD, for comment. One cannot place too much stock, in any such story.

I would, myself, like to know why these kids were not arrested-- was there a lack of evidence against them? It seems to me, if the reporter's injuries were as manifest as he described them, and he was able to pick these kids out of a lineup, there should be sufficient cause for an arrest. But we do not know what happened, because this is such a poor news report. It does not sound as if there even was an opportunity for the reporter to identify the suspects. Why is this? I am not prejudging, that there might not be a problem with law enforcement, or with the prosecutor's office, but no conclusions could be reasonably drawn from this fact-deficient report.

 

He's lucky to be alive. These teens were just doing as the left MSM tells them to do. They were putting this mans white privilege in check.
Leftists are quite in this thread. NO SURPRISE THERE!!

 

I never could understand how anybody could live in NYC or any other big city.

Give me open fields and small towns.

 

Because I’m originally from the NYC area and have family there I read the NY Post every day and what they’re reporting is pretty bad, a lot of people are calling for the gov to fire the DA. These two headlines should give you an idea how bad things are.

Teen gangbanger shot on NYC bus is son of top area police official: sources
https://nypost.com/2023/01/23/teen-...rangbanger-son-of-area-police-bigwig-sources/


Al Sharpton urges black lawmakers to crack down on serial criminals, assist prosecutors in cases
https://nypost.com/2023/01/23/al-sharpton-urges-black-lawmakers-to-crack-down-on-serial-criminals/

 

‘Why Don’t More People Use Public Transit?’ Asks Naked Hobo On Subway.

'MANHATTAN, NY — A resident of New York City's financial district spoke to reporters this week to express his consternation about commuters neglecting the city's premiere transportation infrastructure. Local reporters can be seen wincing in the footage, as the resident in question was an unhoused and unclothed person.'



'"Why would people drive alone and waste all that gas when they could get to where they need to go here on the subway?" said the naked man, Rob Schaeffer, to reporters while splayed out across several seats and administering a dose of heroin to himself. "Why would commuters persist in their excess pollution when they could be so much more efficient here on the subway?"'

Good questions.

'Schaeffer then began babbling in an indecipherable tongue punctuated by random screeches.'

'Additional vagrants in various states of undress investigated the interview as it was underway, commenting and ululating to Schaeffer and the journalists. All were in agreement that the subway was the superior way for New Yorkers to get around, chiming in while clipping their toenails, eating the toenail clippings, and stretching languidly on the seats and handrails.'

A question that deserves further study.

 

fake news

 

good to see people like Sharpton speak out on issues like this

 

the war on drugs has made gangs cool as it pumps so much money in them, time to end the war on drugs - it's been a failure

the war on drugs has caused disrespect for law enforcement and the law

the right had good intentions with the war on drugs, but the unintended consequences are obvious now

 

remember what Comey said, the only choices are to blab or conceal, he chose to blab about Hillary and Conceal about Trump prior to the 2016 election

 

I wonder where Pusher is?

Well, you need witnesses to make a complaint and identify who did it. If they arrest them, then that starts the 72 hour clock to charge them. And if the witnesses don't come forward to identify them as the suspect who set the old man's hair on fire, then you have to release them. So, they released them now, get the video evidence and identify. At least, they have their name, address, and so forth based on some sort of id. And yes, this is the Transit Police.

 

They were minors. The rules for arresting and detaining minors is different.

 

Unable to post a reply on the original thread:

His 42 arrests include unprovoked assault. 'Neely had been arrested 42 times on charges that include petty larceny, theft and unprovoked assault.'

Folks on the subways are scared.

Too much of the Left has celebrated the anti-bail laws and the Soros Puke prosecutors who keep the violent on the streets attacking the innocent citizens. Our former system, which could certainly be improved, I support a system geared around 'restitution, not retribution' rather than the incarceral state, did a better job protecting citizens from criminals and criminals from citizens.

It was with great sadness that I watched the video. While the decorated marine knew how to set the choke, he clearly had never actually choked someone out and revived them, nor had anyone else. When a person is dying in a choke, they may spasm which can be mistaken for 'fighting'. He should have released earlier. And when he did go out, they needed to roll him on his back and lift both his legs which feeds blood to the heart. They instead rolled him to his side, which would be right for an obstructed airway, and at one point someone did try to lift a leg, but, with him being on his side it didn't work very well.

Too much of the Left seems to want to citizens to simply submit to be terrorized by the felons they work to keep on the streets. This is tragic, citizens won't, and the Left's hands aren't clean.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerr...an-killed-on-new-york-subway/?sh=2e56e3de726c

 

The fact that the subject of vigilantes comes up twice in one day on this forum suggests that we are going to see more. I posted something similar to this post in another thread aboiut a violent incident in NYC which people call vigilante justice.

Sure we should not idolize vigilantes. But in fact we should ask why they start to appear. They do not randomly pop up at any time or place. They start to appear in rough clusters. About the time Bernie Goetz shot those men you also had the rise of the Guardian Angels who people called vigilantes.You had other vigilantes less well publicized, because they were not caught. This was a time when law enforcement was on it's ass in many, but not all, cities. NYPD was at it's most corrupt in the twentieth century and crime was out of control. The police were too busy finding ways to make money to be be bothered to enforce the law. Other cities like Chicago had similar circumstances. Cities with effective policing and criminal justice saw no vigilante justice.

It is no surprise that we are starting to see it again. With democrats cities being over whelmed with crime. open air drug markets, consequence free looting of stores and car theft. Defund the police and a general attitude that its ok to attack people ( especially white people). They is why vigilantes start to happen. Sometyimes it takes years for these things to manifest but they inevitably will.

 

More about the Marine:

 

Lol, no it isn’t. I’ve arrested tons of minors the only difference is where the sally port is.

 

I don't know if your extreme recasting of events comes out of ignorance, or if you merely find it assists in making your argument, but the Guardian Angels were not vigilantes. They were much more comparable to a neighborhood watch. True vigilantes do not walk around in pairs, wearing red berets, to identify themselves.

I find your forecast of general doom, to be hyperbolic. That is not to say that we might not have isolated incidents of vigilantism. The most recent one that springs to mind, though, was when those three guys, in the south (NC?), saw a black jogger, and assumed he was a burglar, ending in the young man's death, during their "citizens' arrest." I think, in that case, bigotry played a much greater role, than the police being overwhelmed with crime. Would they have pursued a white jogger? Little chance of that. The type of "vigilantism" we are actually seeing, is mostly paranoid people who are super-quick to reach for their guns, when someone knocks on their door, at too late an hour, or when a stranger pulls in their driveway, unintentionally, or when s person mistakes the armed person's car, for their own, in a parking lot.

While there are probably a few problem cities-- New York is not one of them. That state's relatively strong gun laws, aid in keeping it one of the country's safest places, per capita, in which to live.

 

They are???
Look closer.
Some are doing the usual scapegoating for increasing crime on the subways in NY due to teen gangs.

 

And quiet basements. Lol

 

How much threatening or violent behavior does one have to endure before it becomes a crime:

 

You need to pay more attention to detail.

I did say they were vigilantes nor did I say I personally thought of them that way. I sad many others felt that way and they DID/


I know what the Guardian Angels were I was around when they started getting media attention and they were HIGHLY controversial. I personally did not agree but many many people felt they were just a vigilante gang. They tried to open a chapter in my home town and people lost their inds and protesting saying they did not want vigilantes here. Every vigilante is defended by some and condemned by others.

Furthrmore you miss the whole point. Yes one reason we do njot want vigilante justice is that there will be innocent people hurt. On the other hand the same is true with legitimate law enforcement. Vigilantes do not have a srandard of how to dress or act, there is no definition of them NOT walking around in red berets. They take ALL forms.

Another example from the same era as Guetz is the Ken Mcelroy murder. Not a big city but instead a rual back country town of Skidmore missouri, The whole town covered for 3 men who murdered him in broad daylight in front of sixty witnesses. To this day it is a cold case and no one will name a shooter. He was deliberately murdered because he terrorized that town and the surroiunding region for over twenty years and despite being arrested over twenty time he was never convicted. He literally stole EVERYTHING, raped women including young girls, and assaulted/ shot innocent people for decades. He had to die because lawenforcement/ courts were impotent to do anything to stop him.

Once again when the criminal justice process fails random people WILL tey to re-establish rule of law. That is why you are seeing and will continue to see vigilantes in such cities as NYC, Sanfrancisco, Seattle etc. The left will condemn the vigilantes while excusing all the others criminals. No one will address the root cause.

Your oen example of a racist attack does not alter that fact. We are seeing normal vigilantes as we did decades ago.

You are also wrong as gun laws have nothjhiing whatsoever to do with safety and NYC is rapidly deteriorating and is no longer safe

 

Idolizing those who righteously defend themselves against criminals is the proper thing to do. And both of those men did so and did so very well. They are both heroes. Being a hero isn’t always saving lives, despite the very Disney perspective that has, but taking the correct ones too. In doing so you save lives in the future.

So are those who got lucky and managed to beat a gun wielder without a gun. Lucky, but very brave.

 

It isn’t a recasting of events, you are splitting hairs. That “neighborhood watch” as you describe it took violent actions when necessary.

And there is nothing hyperbolic about his claim. Violence is on the rise, defund the police is still a wide spread irrational opinion, failing to prosecute due to left wing DAs is still an issue, there is actual open looting going on, stores closing due to there not being enough protection.

And what you are seeing in response is people defending themselves. The bias against anyone who uses a gun to do so is why so many on our nation are so critical of those who do. The anti gun bias clouds the vision of many into believing that by simply using the gun to defend themselves they were in the wrong, that they must have “just wanted” to shoot, as they use 20/20 vision of hindsight and bias to judge.

More of this is coming until reason grips the nation again, and police are supported in their efforts to protect us.

 

LOL-- you obviously have no idea, what you're talking about; even Soupnazi admitted the Guardian Angels weren't vigilantes: he says only that some people were afraid, at first, that they might be. I'm sure that the reason for that suspicion, was closely related to the group's members being predominately Hispanic.

Though I didn't live in the City at the time, I did live shortly outside of it, and had many relatives in it. So, I was frequently there, and actually saw these people, doing their thing. Also, of course, I heard the opinions my relatives down in the city, a couple of which, were cops. So you can go sell your bull, somewhere else, Moolk. Unless you can provide evidence of vigilante actions by them, I know there is nothing to that, even if you don't know enough about them, to even guess whether or not there's any truth to what you're saying.