Well done Iceland. Again.

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Jack Napier, Feb 16, 2013.

  1. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    Pornography is not as dangerous as selling guns or alcohol to a minor, it could be considered like sex education classes they teach in high school already.
     
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    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    Didn't you say on here that you lost your secret clearance due to some sort of drug possession. Do they still allow you to keep Department of Defense certifications after that happens?

    Just interested in the law on this, nothing personal.
     
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    Um.

    No.

    It can't.
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Yeah your credentials are clear. :)
    Now you introduce a different security issue with physical access. BTW, one's files are encrypted with one's CAC.
    http://militarycac.com/dodcerts.htm

    See if you break that encryption. :)
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, but let him go, while he most certainly is savy enough to work with a computer he does not posses in depth knowledge to understand all the security. Either that or his ego has gotten the best of him.
     
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    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    Oh it was nothing like that, have a few friends with secret clearances and wanted to know if they could lose their DoD certifications if they lost their DoD clearance. From what I hear its very easy to lose those clearances, and those nice salaries that go with them.
     
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    Back to that cert in a minute.

    Lol... yeah... I JUST introduced the physical access thing.

    Here is four pages of you not getting it.

    Yeah... you are going to audit my linux run. After I explain that I can just boot to linux by exampling a thumb drive, you then, stupidly, suggest that you will turn USB off in windows.

    Here is you still not understanding, because you didn't know.

    Spitting ways to disable USB in windows... not understanding the bios comment.

    Here is you flailing... googling... trying to grasp what I am saying.

    THIRD MENTION of physical access... and yet... you STILL don't (*)(*)(*)(*)ing get it... trying to address the NT boot process.

    Oh... oh NOW that BIOS statement from 3 pages ago starts to sink in.

    From the link.

    This requires a PKI/PKE certification... as suggested above.

    Windows monkeys are (*)(*)(*)(*)ing ridiculous.
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are a lot of certifications. The certs themselves demonstrate a level of proficiency with methodologies/tools/equipment. The work which requires those certificates is predicated on the clearance. They are actual certificates. I lost my ts/sci poly lifestyle. The levels of certification are rendered moot as I am unable to do the work the certs demonstrate I am leveled enough to work on.
     
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    Maybe you should stay out of the certification talk. Certificates are used for identification only.

    I.e, Public and Private key. (RSA)
    With RSA, if one were to encrypt with a private key, only the pubic key and decrypt, and vice versa.

    Everyone has acces to the Public key. Now I want to send you a message, I first encrypt my message with my private key and I obtain a value, then I use your public to encrypt that. Now I have 2 layers of encryption.
    I send it out onto the web cloud, anybody has access to it.
    The only that can decrpyt it, is you with your private that no one else has. You then use my public key to decrypt the second layer to prove it came from me and obviously addressed to you.

    Certificates today are chained, meaning there is a Certificate Authority.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA_(algorithm)

    I did this work in my graduate studies, let me tell, the math is extremely difficult.
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am intimately aware of how private/public key operations work. I wrote a 3 key system using biofeedback streaming entropy pushed through a blowfish algorithm when I was 17.

    Your are confusing the usage of the word certificate in this case.
    Low level admins such as yourself typically have only the declassified pke certification requirement because it is important that in your position you understand the protocol.

    You have been run through sir. You should have bailed back when you were originally confused. You are instead continuing to show your ass.
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Why don't you explain what you did.
     
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    One' certificates come with their CAC, Common Access Card, a card that has an embedded chip that contains ones personal certificates. It is used for digitial signatures and encryption on email and when storing files on ones system and of course the logon.

    If one loses their clearance, they are escorted out of the bulding, unless either the company of the govt chooses to place them on a non secure project/operations. Basically cleaning services in DoD buildings.
     
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    I can't really. I can tell you I put biofeedback sensors in the mouse which give seven streams of continuous data to be manipulated over pins 2 and 6. The user was unaware of the tool. The point of the device was to produce something computers cannot by their nature do, produce large chunks of unreproducible random data.

    You also shouldn't be spouting off about DoD practices. Because I lost my clearance doesn't mean I get to talk about stuff. You haven't said anything secret by any means... but the very nature of this conversation is dubious.

    I will not be able to demonstrate to you what I did for the government. You can pretend this means I am untruthful... that would be, if nothing else, a deflection from your proven ignorance.
     
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    That is not how it works. You are confusing a security certificate with a DoD achievement certificate. Government agencies all over the country, unaffiliated with the DoD, without a CAC, are required to follow DoD protocols and reach differing levels of unclassified certification to ensure the public data they handle is not compromised. While your authorization levels are held on the CAC to allow you access to different parts of buildings etc, what I am referring to is your level of achievement. Your achievement certificate is != to your security signature.
     
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    LOL, my level of achievement is determine annual by my supervisor.
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Yeah right!!!!!

    Who makes these biofeedback mice!!!
    Then what 3 key encryption algorithm were you using, your own.

    What I gave for the DoD is public domain. Everything I have posted is public domain, hence the links.

    Hey, how about we just bury this hatchet, no hard feelings okay.
    If I offened you, I apologize.
     

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