Well, Trump does it again! Spills classified information to foreign head of state.

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  1. Margot2

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    For the first 30 minute attack or the second one 5 1/2 hours later?
     
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    Another B.S. story from the loser Democrat MSM spin machine.
     
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    Trump all but admitted it unasked when he was in Jerusalem.. He's an idiot.
     
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    Some of y'all keep saying Trump is an idiot....Why aren't YOU President then? I remember some Obamites saying the same thing.
     
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    There wasn't enough time for the attack on that Embassy which NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN USED due to it's security issues.

    Not allowing the Merc's to save the Ambassador as they decided to try on their own and not allowing the F-16 Flyby's in my mind was CRIMINAL!!

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    Trump isn't Obama...get over it.
     
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    Margot I know more about what happened there than you could possibly imagine.

    We had aircraft and Military Brass BEGGING to be given the Green Light!!!

    It never came!!

    The Merc's were told NOT to try to help the Ambassador......they went anyway against orders.....but it was too late by then.

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    There was NO embassy or consulate in Benghazi. There never has been. As for security, Congress voted NO except for the US embassies in Afghanistan and Iraq.
     
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    He stood up UNASKED. held his arms out and said more than once I did not use the name Israel.
     
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    They set up a temporary embassy which people like myself all screamed DO NOT DO THIS!!

    I am aware of everything that happened as far as Benghazi.

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    That's NOT true.
     
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    What is...be specific?

    I know the NAMES of the men involved both Agency and the Mercs.

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    There was no diplomatic mission in Benghazi, no consular officer, no Marine Guard.
     
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    Really, gave him the coordinates!
     
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    General Ham said your claim is untrue.
     
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    That's right, left alone to die.
     
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    No you didn't
     
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    Link?
     
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    The Merc's went to visit the Make Shift embassy......they told the embassy staff that it was insanity to use that location.

    The Black not supposed to exist CIA annex which was a short distance away 1.6 km.s set up next to an outdoor slaughter house was the 2nd target that the Merc's traveled from to the make shift embassy AGAINST ORDERS...well they got there too late because they were told not to go but they went anyways.

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    Two former Navy SEALs who were among four Americans killed last week in an attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, died after rushing to the aid of their colleagues, according to sources familiar with the incident.
    Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods were in Benghazi as part of a security contractor force.
    On September 11, they were ensconced in the safety of an annex location in another part of the city when they got word that the main consulate building was under fire and the diplomats there -- with an armed force of only nine people -- were overwhelmed by the deteriorating situation.
    Doherty and Woods, along with other security personnel, left the secure annex and made their way to the chaotic scene, rounding up the consulate staff who were under attack and guiding them back to the second safe building.
    Their grim task also included recovering the body of computer expert Sean Smith, who had succumbed to smoke inhalation from a fire ignited by the attackers. The sources said diesel fuel was used to set the fire and the thick, black smoke created by the accelerant added to the confusion on the ground.

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    U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens, who had gone missing during the attack, was not among those evacuated. He was later reported dead. The State Department has not released details about how Stevens died, though numerous media reports have said the ambassador was taken from the consulate to Benghazi Medical Center by locals.
    After arriving back at the annex, the incident was far from over for the security team, which included Woods and Doherty. An attack was launched on the annex -- this one more intense than the initial assault on the main building.
    Military officials in Benghazi told CNN that rocket-propelled grenades were among the heavy firepower used by the attackers at the annex, with one official saying mortars were also fired.
    "It was during that (second attack) that two additional U.S. personnel were killed and two others were wounded," a senior administration official said last week in providing details of the attack. Those two victims were later confirmed to be Doherty and Woods.

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    They used Mortars zeroed in Libyan's by cell phone to hit the CIA Annex as the Merc's repelled the initial attacks upon the annex after the embassy was burned down.

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    They had an EMBASSY OPEN HOUSE a day or so before the attack with the U.S. Ambassador who was URGED again and again NOT TO USE THE SITE AS A TEMPORARY EMBASSY telling the locals that the U.S. was there to help Libya!!

    There was no Marine Guard and they NEVER should have allowed the U.S. Ambassador to operate out of what they themselves called a TEMPORARY U.S. EMBASSY!!

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    Ambassador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security, U.S. officials say
    By Nancy A. Youssef - McClatchy Foreign Staff




    In the month before attackers stormed U.S. facilities in Benghazi and killed four Americans, U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens twice turned down offers of security assistance made by the senior U.S. military official in the region in response to concerns that Stevens had raised in a still secret memorandum, two government officials told McClatchy.

    Why Stevens, who died of smoke inhalation in the first of two attacks that took place late Sept. 11 and early Sept. 12, 2012, would turn down the offers remains unclear. The deteriorating security situation in Benghazi had been the subject of a meeting that embassy officials held Aug. 15, where they concluded they could not defend the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi. The next day, the embassy drafted a cable outlining the dire circumstances and saying it would spell out what it needed in a separate cable.

    “In light of the uncertain security environment, US Mission Benghazi will submit specific requests to US Embassy Tripoli for additional physical security upgrades and staffing needs by separate cover,” said the cable, which was first reported by Fox News.


    Army Gen. Carter Ham, then the head of the U.S. Africa Command, did not wait for the separate cable, however. Instead, after reading the Aug. 16 cable, Ham phoned Stevens and asked if the embassy needed a special security team from the U.S. military. Stevens told Ham it did not, the officials said.

    Weeks later, Stevens traveled to Germany for an already scheduled meeting with Ham at AFRICOM headquarters. During that meeting, Ham again offered additional military assets, and Stevens again said no, the two officials said.


    “He didn’t say why. He just turned it down,” a defense official who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the subject told McClatchy.

    The offers of aid and Stevens’ rejection of them have not been revealed in either the State Department’s Administrative Review Board investigation of the Benghazi events or during any of the congressional hearings and reports that have been issued into what took place there.

    Stevens’ deputy, Gregory Hicks, who might be expected to be aware of the ambassador’s exchange with military leaders, was not asked about the offer of additional assistance during his appearance before a House of Representatives committee last week, and testimony has not been sought from Ham, who is now retired.

    Both Hicks and Ham declined to comment on the exchange between Ham and Stevens. Hicks’ lawyer, Victoria Toensing, said Hicks did not know the details of conversations between Stevens and Ham and was not aware of Stevens turning down an offer of additional security.

    “As far as Mr. Hicks knows, the ambassador always wanted more security and they were both frustrated by not getting it,” she said.

    Some Republican lawmakers expressed surprise when told that Stevens had turned down such an offer.

    “That is odd to me because Stevens requested from the State Department additional security four times, and there was an 18-person special forces security team headed by Lt. Col. Wood that Gen. Ham signed off on that the State Department said no to,” said Sen. Lindsay Graham, R-S.C., who has been among the most vocal critics of the Obama administration on Benghazi. “The records are very clear that people on the ground in Libya made numerous requests for additional security that were either denied or only partially granted.”

    But a spokesman for Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., the chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, indicated that some lawmakers may have been aware of Stevens’ exchange with Ham.

    “Decisions conveyed by Ambassador Stevens were made on behalf of the U.S. State Department,” the spokesman, Frederick Hill, said in an email. “There were certainly robust debates between State and Defense officials over the mission and controlling authority of such forces. The lack of discussion by the public ARB report about the role inter-agency tension played in a lack of security resources remains a significant concern of the Oversight Committee.”

    One person familiar with the events said Stevens might have rejected the offers because there was an understanding within the State Department that officials in Libya ought not to request more security, in part because of concerns about the political fallout of seeking a larger military presence in a country that was still being touted as a foreign policy success.

    LINK.....http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article24749134.html

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    Here is the important part of the above!!

    Army Gen. Carter Ham, then the head of the U.S. Africa Command, did not wait for the separate cable, however. Instead, after reading the Aug. 16 cable, Ham phoned Stevens and asked if the embassy needed a special security team from the U.S. military. Stevens told Ham it did not, the officials said.

    Weeks later, Stevens traveled to Germany for an already scheduled meeting with Ham at AFRICOM headquarters. During that meeting, Ham again offered additional military assets, and Stevens again said no, the two officials said.


    “He didn’t say why. He just turned it down,” a defense official who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the subject told McClatchy.


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    Remember the Republican convention? Remember the chorus led by Flynn screaming "Lock her up!" for using a personal email server that COULD POSSIBLY be compromised by hacking? Remember Trump himself echoing that now famous phrase and accusing Hillary of not being trustworthy? Now, as President of the U.S., Trump feels free to share CLASSIFIED intelligence with our most capable opponent, Russia. The President of the U.S. is the Commander in Chief, and sworn to protect and defend the Constitution of the U.S., and the nation. You ask where did he do something wrong. Trump openly did what he accused Hillary of making possible, but that she never actually did--sharing classified info with an enemy. Why the double-standard in the way Republicans have dealt with both these events? Why does Hillary deserve to be locked up for the three emails found on her personal server that were interpreted to be secret, but were never hacked, while all this Republican support for Trump after he openly acknowledged he shared "classified" intelligence with the enemy in a meeting in the White House. This is not patriotism. This is hypocrisy.
     
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    Trump denies saying 'Israel' while sharing classified info with Russians

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