When one makes extraordinary claims, as the truthers are want to do, one sould provide extraordinary proof to back them. To date the only thing the truthers have supplied is extraordinary assumptions.
Sorry no the Government has provided actual conclusions that fit both the known facts and meet the criteria imposed by physics and time. In order to get your theory to work you'd need technology that does not yet exist and may not ever exist. You have offered only assumptions about bits and pieces of the evdence. Assumptions that in the final analysis do not hold water.
aw shucks, forgot that the government sent in huge teams and did a complete and thorough hands on failure analysis PRIOR to the demolition, ermm collapse, ermm collapse from demolition, well whatever. so why dont you post all those FACTS. start with that FACT MODEL of wtc7. LOL geezus
You're trying to mislead those viewers who haven't seen the proof of an inside job which is crushing. Here's a link to some of it. http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144746 I suppose there are a lot of people who haven't had time to do the research and some of them can be swayed by this tactic. Once people have seen the proof of an inside job, there's really nothing you pro-official version posters can do; the proof is simply too clear to obfucate. Anyone who looks at the proof and goes into denial and still maintains it wasn't an inside job should watch this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEGgAk1AbA4 Lately I've been having some technical problems that make it difficult for me to post. If I stop posting on this forum, it's not because I chickened out.
Scott I've seen your so called proof. I've been looking at this crap since Loose change first showed up on the internet. You have no proof. You have bucket loads of unfounded assumptions based mostly on the assumptions of people who can barely spell physics let alone understand it. But the real topper isn't even that. It's the time line. The largest known controlled demoliton project was a 21 story building with far less square footage than building 7 alone. It took them nearly 7 months to complete that project and everyone knew all about it. To do the 21 stories on the sly would have taken at least 50% longer and here you are alledging that it would only take about one a month longer to rig nearly 12 times as many floors and probably 100 times the square footage and do it without anyone being the wiser. Sorry not going to happen. Find yourself another pipe dream this one won't wash.
prime example of padlocked in the box thinking. if the japs thought like that pearl harbor would no have happened LMAO
thanks for proving that you have scott on ignore as well.He has proof its just as we both know,you are afraid to look at and only see what you want to see ignoring what he posts.your the one living in a pipe dream ignoring reality.your pathetic ramblings cant get around bld 7 the crux of the 9/11 coverup commission you OCTA'S always ignore. you guys always run off with your tail between your legs coming back with pathetic one liners when challenged to explain why bld 7 collapsed but other buildings MUCH closer to the towers that had far more extensive damage done to them and far more extensive fires as well but they remained standing. you coincidence theorists worship the lamestream media despite how absurd it is ignoring Barry jennings testimony that he heard explosions and saw the entire basement gone in bld which happened BEFORE the towers fell down which proves the 9/11 commission lied saying the debris caused bld 7 to topple and you also blatantly ignore how evidence was illegally removed and destroyed a crime itself and how NIST lied in its report saying there no pools of molten metal found when several firefighters found pools of molten metal. excelent link there scott.you sure took them to school and gave them a first class lesson,.too bd they are too immature to admit defeat.thats what happens though when someone is in such seriosu denial the truth scares them.they wont look at it as they just demonstrated contrary to what he just said that he did.He obviously did not. but really,all you need to do is show that five minute video,lick clockwork,they always are too chicken to address it because they know they are cornered so they always come back with pathetic one liners saying the video is lying when they cant never even try to prove it.
as usual scott you took the Octa's to school and they can only sling crap in defeat like monkeys and whine about it being sore losers like they are.well done as always.
I've noticed that Scott comes in, posts almost identical posts (including the same links), only posts in conspiracy areas of the forum, and never anywhere else. Jango, I believe you said that is suspicious? Are you going to comment to Scott the way you commented to me? I actually have various posting styles, I have various links, I even changed my sourcing options upon your request. You've taken the time to comment here in this thread. Care to clear that up for me a bit? Have you noticed that? Weird, I did Google that. I even read the entire thing. You know what I didn't see in any of the related information. How many people were involved in 9/11? According to truthers it's pretty much everyone. How much thermite did it take to bring the towers down? How come there was no thermite found in the dust of the WTC? Why truthers haven't taken all of the information that they have, and given it to the KSM legal defense team? How come you guys don't want to save a human life? The same people who you think are innocent. Truthers hang on to 1600 architects and engineers, however that isn't even 1% of the total jobs available for those occupations. Meaning, less than 1% of the total architectural and engineering profession agree that there was a controlled demolition on 9/11. Why is that you guys constantly claim that the professional industry agree with you?
1st the evidence trail for the chips is as flaky as the chips.You couldn't prove in a court of law that the chips even came from the WTC. 2nd orange colored chips in association with iron isn't unusual at all. Both rust and certain coatings used to inhibit rust can be orange in hue. Again your evidence is lacking. Also koko there is a hell of a difference between figuring out how to make a torpedo run shallow and finding a way to shorten the time it takes to do a given task by about 90%.
The Black Knight will never admit defeat no matter how obvious it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4 These guys can only sway audiences who haven't seen the proof so they want to start threads that show no proof but have lots of posters badmouthing the truth movement. http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1222 (excerpt) ---------------------------------- They may work in teams, supporting each other and giving the illusion of popular support on the net. ---------------------------------- What we have to do is post some of the proof on the first page of every thread they start in order to thwart them.
If this is directed at me, that's a weird thing to say. I didn't know we were dating. I was just calling out the fact that truthers are notorious for calling "debunkers" out on this, yet they don't notice that they do the same things themselves. Koko, your dust study proved to be Tnemac paint. You'll have to try again, if you pay attention to the study as well it was just presented to it's second scientists convention. It's weird that tricky dicky gage hasn't presented his non sense to anyone but other truthers. Something to think about. Oh, and oh yeah, Scott is really handing it to us. With the same old washed up links that he's been posting on several sites forever. It's funny that him and holston get along, he posts on JREF as fatfreddy88. He also posts the same anti-semite garbage that Holston does. Do I smell a sock, and multi accounts? Things really ARE starting to add up aren't they. It's really starting to appear that the same thing the truthers accusing the debunkers of doing they are actually doing. This is all for nothing though, because you truthers will hand wave, and lie their way into posting the same garbage. It's fun to debunk no matter how many times it's presented.
no the government made the extraordinary claims that 19 hijackers many of whom were proven impossible to be, did feats only a computer guidance system was capable of performing. I never considered the government truthers.
thanks for letting me know that they installed spray nozzles on the columns. Was that part of a demolition protection package or what? I will give them credit that they worked well, the 4 way nozzle on the one column they could use in a movie! Why would they wait till they demolish the building to use them though? and why would they use paint that thinned the steel to the point it no longer had any structural strength? What is your reasoning behind that? even fema would like to know so send them a letter with your response please as weel so we can solve these mysteries!
I can't even decipher what you're trying to get at here. It doesn't even make sense. They installed spray nozzles? The primer thinned the steel? No it didn't and none of those pictures even say it did. How are you coming along on answering those questions koko? Or just more appeal to woo from you again?
I know.hee hee.the only thing he looked at in that post of yours was the link,he didnt go any further than that.Its obvious he didnt even bother to click it on and read any of it cause he didnt even bother to address any of it just like he never trys to address any of those facts in that five minute video I posted.they NEVER do cause they know they are cornered and cant counter it so they come back with pathetic posts like that one CLAIMING they have debunked you. Ever since I took him to school and humilated him with that five minute video asking him to debunk it he never trys to counter my facts anymore and then CLAIMS he has debunked me.hee hee these guys never learned anything about how to properly debate.you got to actually TRY and prove the information presented has been debunked,they never try as just evidenced.He'll probably put you on ignore as well now since you humilated him and took him to school just now like I did a month ago.The truth obviously hurts the OCTA's. they know as well as we do they would not last ONE SINGLE MINUTE in a debating hall debating like that and would be laughed out of it within that minute.Yeah you hit the nail on the head,they work in teams giving the illusion of popular support on the net. they never try to explain bld 7 how barry jennings testimony refutes the lies of the 9/11 commission report because its the crux of the 9/11 coverup commission they cant get around since they cant explain that it was an amazing bizarre coincidence that all 3 buildings that collapsed were all owned by zionist Larry Silverstein but all the others that stood that day were not and that there were other buildings MUCH closer to the towers than bld 7 and had far more extensive damage and fores to it than bld 7 yet they did not collapse.they never even bother trying to explain that because they know they are cornered and cant so they dismiss it and act like they never saw the post EVERYTIME. never fails.hee hee.
I just read through that second link of yours.excellent stuff there as well.feel good knowing there is SOMEONE here that will read the information in your links anyway.
Nope.Its funny people on the net who defend the fairy tales are forced to make up lies as well ignore the information you present them and can never be mature enough to admit defeat. anytime I show DVD'S on it to people in REAL life,they get it right away that it was an inside job.The only ones that dont are the ones that are afraid and in denial going into it thinking that our government could never do such a terrible thing and since it sounds like its hard to believe,they wont look at the evidence and they tell me they wont bother watching it. they dont want to view it because it upsets their secure world they live in and they are afraid to watch the DVD and they refuse right there on the spot with me. I havent run into very many of those in real life thankfully.Most will take the DVD home and wont be afraid to watch it and will and then will return it to me and they then see and know the truth thankfully.its just a few bad apples here and there I have run into that are afraid who tell me they wont take it home and watch it.not very often though thankfully.
Is that all that (*)(*)(*)(*)ty video says? Well, hell, the Barry Jennings thing is garbage, and Barry himself called Truthers crackpots. I debunked that forever ago on another thread, go ahead and read it. Haha this is great, I don't even have to watch your (*)(*)(*)(*)ty video to debunk it. Thanks! First off, all the other buildings weren't built like the WTC either. They were smaller, concrete reinforced, and didn't get hit by planes. Also, all of the buildings had to be demolished after the fact because they had been so damaged that they could not be used anymore. The steel in building 6 was bent due to softening. It's actually one of the "crux" of the truthers lies saying steel melted when that wasn't claimed. It was only claimed the steel weakened and lost it's structural integrity. Are you saying Silverstein had something to do with the plot? Does your video say how they placed the Thermite? How it survived the fires? How the detonated it? Why there was no thermite found in the dust? Who was in on it, specifically? Why only 1% of the entire engineering community believes in a conspiracy for 9/11? Nope, nothing. There you go Jango, debunked in less than 5 minutes. Just like I said I would. If anyone needs links to evidence let me know.
You said so yourself, man. I was just wondering why you were talking to me, since you know, you were quoting me and replying to me, but had earlier said that I no longer interested you.
Any chance you can take me back to where I said that? I can't find the post where I was addressing you and stated that. I believe it may have been a miscommunication.
