Were Charlotesville riots planned and financed from high up?

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  1. TheGreatSatan

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    I wouldn't put it past the collective to stage this event. How many of those people there, were from there? The KKK etc has been doing rallies forever, so it's not like this is a new thing. The collective is trying to paint anyone that is white, and pro american, as a neo-Nazi.
     
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    Yes... and so effective in so many nations.
     
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    You only get one.
     
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    And exactly what "right" has been "trampled on" that has kept YOU from working, having a roof over your head, putting food on the table, getting an education, getting decent medical care? Look in the mirror sweetheart, because YOU voted in the very people who move to put the kibosh on the aforementioned.

    Civil war? Puh-leeze! You militia/separatist/oathers/threepers/WTF ever clowns have been humping that crap for over 30 years. The REALITY is that there are a HELL of a lot more National Guard, police departments and military folk THAN YOU. You want to go out in a blaze of "glory", they'll be more than happy to accommodate you. And guess what, you'll be doing the work of Al Qaeda, the Taliban and ISIS for them! :disbelief:
     
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    And it seems that my "one" has defeated you, because NO ONE is buying into your smoke blowing.

    Say goodnight Gracie.
     
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  6. Merwen

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    Shurr Nuff....
     
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    And this "guilt via association" tactic by right wing wonks with delusions of intelligence has YET to provide direct links between Soros and Antifa.

    Sorry toodles, but just because Nazi's and white supremacists are getting their crap directly and physically challenged doesn't make any blather put out in their defense palatable.
     
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    And as the reader can see, once challenged with FACTS and the logic that derives from said facts, right wing wonks/blow hards like Merwen will blather anything to divert from their defeat. Carry on.

    Oh, and for the record: I use to post under the name "theferret", but for some reason my password was suddenly denied and I could not change it.
     
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    And with the right wing bias synopsis on each aside, please point out exactly on each item what was illegal in a court of law or detrimental to the day to day functioning of American lives, much less documented cases of false reporting, like with Democracy Now! I'll wait.
     
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    I question this input. Theferret I remember made sensible posts.

    However, if you are really him or her there is some way to email the board and get them to send you a link to the email address you had when you first registered. A little research should help you find how to do that; I forget exactly where the link is. Maybe just a PM to a mod would do it.
     
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    Been there, done that. Didn't work. So here I am with another screen name.
    You're full of it, Merwen. The chronology of the posts on this thread alone PROVES that when you can't win an argument based on facts and the logic derived from said facts, you desperately try to change the subject. Grow up and concede a point, or blow smoke with the last word. Either way, you're done.
     
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    The Southern Poverty LC's whole operation pretty much assumes "guilt by association" all the time.

    Disaffected people who can only find locally a group the SPLC lists as a vehicle to express themselves are not being appropriately served by our political, economic, and mental health systems, and also happen to be white.

    I wonder if the SPLC lists the Black Panthers, BLM, or the Muslim Brotherhood?
     
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    1. All YOU have to do is factually disprove JUST ONE reported item on the SPLC website to validate your accusation. I'll wait.
    2. Stop wondering and go to the site...you'll see black hate groups and individuals listed as well....it's not their fault if white hate groups have a longer, more established history and larger membership.

    Stop your willful ignorance.....DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE YOUR FINGERS HIT THE KEYS!
     
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    I am not a detail person, but I do appreciate the input of those that are. Hard fact is very useful in seeing the larger picture, which is my main interest. I will hold on to my own view of the SPLC for now, though, based on my various perceptions of how that organization has functioned in the past. You will probably be much happier taking my posts as my personal opinion, pending further input, as that is how I take them myself. My opinions evolve over time.

    Sorry you had problems getting back on. A night or so ago the site was hacked and a warning went out to change passwords. Someone was grabbing peoples' avatars and posting porn px in their places.
     
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    Our representative came under fire for associating with hate groups because of the types of groups SPLC considers 'hate' groups.
    https://perry.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=398444
     
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    Everyone has rights even Christians, and when there are parades with naked freaks flaunting themselves, those Christians have a right to be in the streets that were paid for by their tax dollars, without having to bump into filth. If they want to be naked and offend others with their obscenities, then they should parade in the dump. It would fit them more.

    People also have a right to honor those who they want to honor, and not have statues torn down by liberal fascists because they can't get over their past hang ups. As for the police, national guards, etc., what makes you think they will go against people who have the same sentiments as themselves?

    You better wake up to reality, because your glory days are over. People can take so much tyranny before there is a reaction.
     
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    Something did seem contrived and artificial about the incident.
     
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    These "protesters" are nothing more than mercenaries for hire. Obviously they have no jobs and are bused in...
     
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    Time to move THIS one to the nutjob conspiracy section
     
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    You Ruined this stupid Conspiracy string that gave Red State Numb Nuts what they dream of.
    The OP citing a Facebook personality 'Judy Maria' (WTF) whose postings seem to have vanished. She, probably part of the Russian disinfo campaigns that got Trumpov elected.

    This baseless piece of crap should be in the Conspiracy section not 'latest news' or 'political opinion'.
    But it did 'Out' some of the Right Wing crazies.
    +
     
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    Well before a white nationalist “Unite the Right” demonstration turned deadly in Charlottesville this month, attendees were planning for violence, according to leaked online chats. In private chat channels, they shared advice on weaponry and tactics, including repeatedly broaching the idea of driving vehicles through opposition crowds. After the vehicular attack which killed counterprotestor Heather Heyer, users of the channel celebrated the event.

    The discussions took place on a private channel created using Discord, a service primarily intended for gamers. Hundreds of screenshots of the exchanges were released this week by Unicorn Riot, a left-wing activist group, which said they were shared by an anonymous source. The records also included audio recordings of planning meetings.

    http://fortune.com/2017/08/26/charlottesville-violence-leaked-chats/

    Typical leftists uncovering murderous intent and stirring the pot by doing something about it and endangering white people.
     
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    Here's more:

    https://www.popsugar.com/news/Rep-Bryan-Zollinger-Obama-Charlottesville-Conspiracy-Theory-43922065

    POPSUGAR News Politics Rep. Bryan Zollinger Obama Charlottesville Conspiracy Theory
    This Republican Rep. Believes It's Totally "Plausible" That Obama Set Up Charlottesville Rally
    August 27, 2017 by ANN-MARIE ALCÁNTARA
    First Published: August 22, 2017
    Posted by Bryan Zollinger on Monday, June 5, 2017
    Barely a week has passed since neo-Nazis and white supremacists rallied in Charlottesville, VA, an event which left three dead, and the conspiracy theories are out in full force. Instead of taking the much easier route and disavowing Nazis, one site chose instead to peddle a conspiracy theory suggesting that former President Barack Obama coordinated the rally, a wild falsity that one Idaho State Representative would later post to his personal Facebook page and even defend. After receiving flack for posting the article, Republican Representative Bryan Zollinger wrote in a comment, "I'm not saying it is true, but I am suggesting that it is completely plausible."

    Zollinger, who was elected in 2016 and who represents District 33, posted the article called "Charlottesville and Its Aftermath: What If It Was a Setup?" on Aug. 18. The article purports the theory that Obama, George Soros, Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe, and Charlottesville Mayor Mike Signer might've met in Obama's "war room" in his new Washington DC home to plan the rally. Zollinger, instead of taking the better route and condemning Nazis — which was the very least anyone could do and which even President Donald Trump did — decided to stand by it. In responding to one comment, Zollinger wrote,

    "Joel, I'm not saying it is true but I am suggesting that it is completely plausible. We know that many protestors were Soros funded and we also know that Donald Trump is not a racist. The man was in the public spotlight for twenty plus years with zero allegations of racism. He has clearly and unequivocally denounced by name these hate groups as he well should have. The media has chosen to push this narrative until even some of the president's own party are sucking up to the media, mind you only those that know they are part of the swamp that Trump avowed to drain. So while I'm not saying I believe the article, I'm glad to see someone out there asking people to think for themselves and use some logic and reason rather than spout what the media, otherwise known as the communications branch of the Democratic Party is selling."

    Trump, who has been accused of racist actions before, did not completely denounce these hate groups. In a press conference on Aug. 15, Trump did once again condemn neo-Nazis and white supremacists, but also said, "I've condemned many different groups, but not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch." Zollinger then doubled down on posting this article in another comment and wrote,
    "Wow, I found this article to be interesting if not thought provoking. I found some of the theories to be plausible and others to be maybe somewhat far-fetched. Unfortunately, many have taken offense to my post and have labeled me many unmentionable things. Just for the record I never meant to offend anyone and apologize if I truly offended anyone. I always try to keep both my private FB page and my political page civil and respectful. I truly believe and try to live by the mantras of love one another and do good to those who hate you and pray for those that are cruel to you. If you ever feel I have not lived by this mantra or offended you, please contact me and let me apologize. Now that said, I am adamantly opposed to fake outrage and censorship of thought and/or the exchange of ideas and will not tolerate such if I know it is fake. Anyway, love you all and I will not be posting anymore on this thread. I appreciate the robust discussion here. BTW, it was not anyone on here that prompted this response. Once the media contacts you regarding a social media post, you know it's offended someone."

    You can view Zollinger's post and search for his comments ahead.
     
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    My, but you do try to blow smoke up one's butt when you can't logically or factually defend your opinions and statements, much less try to justify your willful ignorance. In short, it's a waste of time and effort in trying to engage you in a rational, adult debate. Adios.
     

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