What are Queenslanders thinking?

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  1. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At this stage it is looking like the referendum on 4 year terms is going to get up. I think it spells danger for Queenslanders. Are Queenslanders tired of politics and wanting a reprieve from all the garbage? Are they just more trusting in government's than what has been suggested over the last 10 years?
    For mind, the 4 year term doesn't make much sense, especially in Queenslands circumstances. 1 year extra is plenty of time to implement unwanted policy, especially without an upper house and the checks and balances that come with that. The people of Queensland are obviously happy to reduce their rights in a democracy and allow a few to control their lives. If there was an option for 10 year terms, Queenslanders would have taken it I'd reckon. This potentially slid through way too easy is my thought.
     
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    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    Idiots. I voted NO. If it came with an upper house I may have considered voting YES but this is just handing another year to a house without any review.

    The only reason to vote YES is because you think voting every 4 years rather than 3 will be a huge time saver. It's just stupidity and laziness.
     
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    QLD thought process; less voting for me = better for me.

    Qld under Beattie's ALP called itself the 'smart state' remember :roflol:
     
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    I tied to tell everyone that Australia was becoming a country of dumbarse, but no one wanted to listen. :roflol:

    What's to be said about a group of people, who have a greater understanding of football, than they do their own political system? :icon_clueless:
     
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    Adultmale Active Member Past Donor

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    I agree. Just imagine if Captain Bligh and her ship of fools had run for another year.
     
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    On the other hand, how often are governments thrown out after only one term? Not sure about state, but Federal you need to go back a long way.

    The real advantage for four year terms is that governments can implement policies that will not have a payoff for over 3 years. Currently a new government must first learn how to govern and shortly after that it has to think about having an election.

    You lot who voted no are a minority group. The yes vote won. http://results.ecq.qld.gov.au/elections/state/REF2016/results/summary.html#9
     
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    Of course the no's are a minority... its QLD!!! I assure you, the logic was voting less often means less distractions for their weekends.

    Anyway, the job of opposition is to know how to govern and offer an alternate government. It's not meant to be 'learn as you go' once elected! If you cannot do it in 3 then you don't deserve a 4th quite frankly. The only useful thing was a set date, but at the cost of having less measures to pressure sitting governments to actually 'perform', its a bad call from QLDer's. The only people who win are the politicians.

    Now they can just get in, do nothing for 3 years, and then slowly build steam for a popular final 12 months. If you look at Beattie, he played the QLD short attention span like a pro because the Union's know how to play the media up here, so that is what they'll focus on.
     
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    In other words the majority of Queenslanders are below average in intelligence. That would include you and anyone else who lives in Queensland who has posted in this thread. Thank you for that information.
     
  9. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Beattie was in for so long because he provided sensible and stable government. Bligh tried to point out the corrupt self serving Newman but was quashed by fools who forgot that she had to cope with the once in a lifetime floods that devastated many parts of Queensland along with its most destructive cyclones. It took people less than 3 years to see what this clown Newman's capper was.

    I'm more worried about another Newman getting his or her hands on QLD for 4 years.
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    3 years seems to be too short to push through some policy but politicians just don't seem to be reading the people. In 3 years Newman just about ripped the heart out of Queensland with his disgusting policies that simply targeted the most vulnerable like our retirees/seniors. He was a disgusting piece of work that had to be shown the door after less than a year.
     
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    What you have to understand is that this was proposed after not one but two landslide elections that changed nearly all the sitting members so we had back to back new government
     
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    What, what ... You mean the great Oracle has been ignored. No wonder disaster is about to fall upon us.

    I don't think many Australian's know a LOT about football, league maybe.

    I believe there was one player years ago who changed over from Football to AFL. He's still wandering around trying to find where to do a "corner kick" from.
     
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    Are yes, beautiful Queensland, Sunny one day, political wilderness the next.
     
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    Empathy factor for Australians - zero. :fishing:

    60K - 70K will attend a grand final to watch adults play kiddies games, but they wander around like lost sheep when their elected politicians act inappropriately. :icon_clueless:
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I get that, but is that a reason to increase to 4 year terms without ensuring government's simply don't run roughshod. I wouldn't trust either party without a system that has other voices with the power to ensure things don't get out of hand. I'm very dubious unless I hear an argument that settles the nerve.
     
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    The majority yes, but the rest of your post is nonsense - as not all QLDer's voted 'yes' to the extension.
     
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    Lol, serious thread derailed....

    Beattie broke the state's coffers, and Bligh had to start selling assets off to try and keep things running. That is why Newman got in. Newman got out because the Union movement is so strong here and the State public service has been fluffed up by successive years of ALP gov's which means heaps of folk know they are draining the State - which is why they stopped hiring new people under Newman and let numbers start to decline.... but the media (heavily Union) just puppets the BS ALP lies and QLDers believe it... like they believed the lies Beattie kept saying. Beattie would just crack a joke and say everythings fine... yea right. QLD is too blue collar for its own good, but not even blue collar QLDers were stupid enough to keep the Beattie/Blight trainwreck in.
     
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    OMG, you mean that on that day 0.29% of our population are going to watch the tiddlywinks grand final this year?
     
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    And I am bloody worried about another Beattie/Bligh government getting their hands on Qld. for four years. We do not have an upper house to keep out of control governments in check.
     
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    :fishing:
     
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    Its frightening that majority of Australians are completely :icon_clueless: about their own constitution, and how to use it to their benefit. The reason why Australia always gets loser politicians into Government, and why nothing get done for the citizens.
     
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    You really would not be a very sportsman like snooker player.

    But I do so much like to see you squirm when your desperate for some silly little thing that saves your face, well in your own eyes anyway even if everyone here can see the pathetic and desperate gasps as you slowly drown in the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) that has expelled from such an I'll informed view.
     
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    I love your use of facts, well they're facts in your own little fantasy world. In the previous post you tried to convince yourself (you will never convince anyone else) that your views are sound good to you.

    I'm sorry that you have scared yourself, please resume medication, get some facts and figures, assemble some links to back YOUR OPINION or let it stand on it's ( your opinion) on its own merit which is that YOU say so.

    Prove YOUR statement of fact.
    "Its frightening that majority of Australians are completely :icon_clueless: about their own constitution, and how to use it to their benefit."

    Now don't say "you all know it's true" like usual as if the entire world thinks your a sage. Show us proof to back it up. No?
     
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    Oh and I did mean the "adult tiddlywinks grand final" must be clear and precise.
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Keep telling yourself that, you may just believe it one day. Newman will go down as qld's most useless and selfish premiers in QLD, well probably not the worst, it would be hard to surpass old Joh but definitely up there. He was a complete toe rag. Qlders quickly realised the lies, deceit and self centred profligate manner.

    The most deceitful myth in Australian politics is the LNP being the most consummate economic managers. People are obviously starting to question the basis of this claim. The claim doesn't come from expert analysis but from the LNP themselves. AT, you'll notice that the rusted ons will repeat this claim with blissful ignorance.
     

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