What are your views on abortion?

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Daggdag, Oct 19, 2020.

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Which best describes your view on abortion

  1. A woman has the right to choose to get an abortion with no limitations.

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    47.7%
  2. Abortion should be illegal after the first trimester

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    18.6%
  3. Abortion should be illegal except to preserve the health and life of the mother.

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    27.9%
  4. Abortion should be illegal in all circumstances.

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    5.8%
  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Oh, like requiring congressmen to have MD certification? There's a really special idea!

    But even then, it's perfectly reasonable to suspect that different doctors would consider different courses of action based on their assessment of risks.

    Thus they would still face prosecutors who search for doctors with alternative professional opinions.

    These decisions have to be made by women and their doctors. Not women and their prosecutors.
     
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    Read the news. Read the report from the doctor in Texas who told his patient that she needed to go to a different stated to be treated for her dying fetus.

    It's already causing medical schools to move OB/GYN certification programs to other states.

    I've shown this many times.

    Your direction is totally focused on fetuses, with NO concern about healthcare as shown by your reaction to numerously cited medical concerns.

    And, you don't care even a little bit about the right to personal bodily autonomy, thus justifying your attempt to use the government to enforce your religious beliefs.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The two caveats to that, of course, are #1 she put it there, and #2 it's only temporary.

    And then of course we can also argue the point of whether it's really all "her body" at that point. Which seems like a fair argument since many pro-choicers try to argue that the fetus is "part of her body", which naturally implies they are sharing the same body.
     
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    My views? I am 100% pro-abortion.
     
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    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    Nope, sorry and yes its still her body.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How about we compromise? Abortions only for unattractive women. And they have to get their tubes tied after the second abortion.
     
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    And in doing so, executing the possible human?
     
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    And what about when abortion is NOT necessary in such cases? Do these abortions have to do with "healthcare?"

    Has this actually happened?

    Correct. And just for the record, I too believe that women have rights of bodily autonomy.

    "Inviolate." Do you mean the notion that a legislature can choose when a fetus is viable is ludicrous?
     
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    Uh yes.
     
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    But it's a possible human!
     
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    If they don't kill it, it might risk interfering with a "modern woman's" liberated sex life.
     
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    So?
     
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    Again, if the woman doesn't want it inhabiting her body she has every right to have it removed even if this results in its death.
     
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    Exactly!
     
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    Well, in which other situations are you perfectly okay with humans being executed?
     
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    Self defense.
     
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    Limited to a life threatening situation?
     
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    Pretty much yep.
     
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    So then only abortion should be granted in life threatening situations?
     
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    Sober up.
     
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    Should women have a right to an abortion or not? If yes are there any limitations?
     
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    Your two "caveats" are more nonsense from you who has refused to listen to all information given.

    - rape isn't a choice.
    - one may contract a serious disease or other health problem after having become pregnant.
    - the fetus may contract a serious disease or health problem.
    - being "temporary" does not mean that rational care can be given during that period, leading to serious health risk.

    It absolutely IS her body that is carrying the fetus. If it is removed, the chances it will survive start at zero and don't increase until late in pregnancy.

    A woman has a right to personal bodily autonomy.
     
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    Again, if the woman doesn't want it inhabiting her body she has every right to have it removed even if this results in its death.
     
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    Yes.
    Yes.
     
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