What do we do with Russia after it's failed again?

Discussion in 'Russia & Eastern Europe' started by pitbull, Sep 12, 2022.

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Measures to maintain world peace despite Russia?

  1. Demilitarize them and put them under UN control for many years.

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  2. Let them freely start a new Russia at their own.

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  1. ToughTalk

    ToughTalk Well-Known Member

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    Ahh the dip **** progressive taking points

    Trump was being diplomatic on a level you don't understand and the result was Putin was docile.

    But you don't try to get a billion dollar pipeline contract canceled if you are a fan of Russia. That video I posted is 7 minutes of trump warning NATO about Russia and that they need to do more to prepare themselves because he knew what type of man Putin is.

    There is nobody on the progressive side that would have put NATO on blast the way Trump did in that meeting and that's exactly the kind of harsh truth that progressive world leaders need to be smacked in the face with.
     
  2. UntilNextTime

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    Sounds a lot like neo-nazi ukies. I think your a bit confused.
     
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    You better not be calling anyone on this board a “dip***”. If you want to have a honest discussion do not accuse me so anyone else of not “understanding”. We may perceive things differently.

    Trump did not and does not understand that NATO is not a club of countries paying dues. He also does not understand that there no one military called NATO. A country “contributes “ to the strength of NATO y the percentage that it spends on defense.
    Trump by lambasting NATO openly and by sh***g on our intelligence community gave Putin a false impression that NATO countries would just applaud his invasion of Ukraine. Of course that progressive dip@$+&#& Obama also had given the Putin fascist a pass.
    Trump also said that we do not need NATO. That gave Putin a woody. Putin used Trumps sick ego against him and Trump was paying Putin back for the millions and millions Putin spent on supporting him in the 2016 election cycle.
    Putin knew how to play Trump’s ego.
    Trump by withhold military assistance to Ukraine until Vindman and others exposed the attempted blackmail. That aid to Ukraine was bi-partisan so only the most ridiculously left wing Democrats apposed it along with some MAGA Publicans. In fact with the last couple months some MAGA Publicans have said that they did “not care about Ukraine”.

    I do recall that Trump did mention the pipeline or Europe buying Russian oil/gas but you have to admit that Trump’s behavior and lack of understanding history, geopolitics , and total lack of knowledge of Russia forced Europeans to have no confidence in him.

    Sif you are ready to discuss without insulting someone intelligence I will welcome you response. If not then ignore my posts as I will ignore yours.
     
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    Both wrong.
    Sanctions have really turned the EU upside down. Chopping down forests for heating? Brrrr.

    Obama is sitting in his home pulling the strings still.
     
  6. ToughTalk

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    Must really gut ya to know that rather then submit to Putin, Europe would rather freeze or starve or both.

    They won't do either sorry to say. The winter will come and go and still Europe will remain and will become independant from Russia on their energy needs moving forward.

    Nobody wants to be ****in Russian.

    How's that "mop up" going in Ukraine btw? LOL.
     
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  7. UntilNextTime

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    It wasn't about Europe for Russia. Europe shot itself in the foot by imposing sanctions on Russia. It's not a matter of submission, but one of stupidity on the Europeans part. Did you forget that?
     
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    Europe shot itself in the foot when it became dependant on a dipshit like Putin for energy needs. That would be like getting in bed with Rocketman over in NK for your food and then getting shocked when the little fat man decides to suddenly push his weight around.

    Trump warned em, they needed to learn the hard way.
     
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    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ He's waiting for the ocean rise and ensuing flood from "global warming climate catastrophe " ... :eyepopping:'
    ~ Trump correctly predicted many things.
     
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    Russia always defeats its enemies. Russia will definitely win in Ukraine in the future at any cost, because Ukraine is the sphere of life interests of Russia. And the captured Banderovites will saw the forest in Siberia.
     
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    I see that the evil of QANONism is still alive though a bad bacteria it is.
     
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    ~ Thanks for the testimonial. May the Q be with you ... vibes.gif
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    USSR got demolished in Afstan.....Russia getting demolished in Ukraine....and will break apart further....that's the bitter destiny Moscalia faces....deal with it ...:).
     
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    The Americans and NATO lost in Afghanistan too. The Americans and NATO fled Afghanistan in disgrace recently. The Americans and NATO will shamefully flee Ukraine in the near future.
     

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