What do you consider 'bipartisan'?

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What is bipartisan?

  1. A single vote from acorss the aisle is sufficiently bipartisan.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. One vote from the other team isn't good enough, but a few qualifies.

    1 vote(s)
    7.7%
  3. Around 25% from the other side is what I expect.

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    76.9%
  4. If its not close to half, then its still partisan.

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    15.4%
  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seems it gets tossed around pretty loosely. If they can find one person on the other side of the aisle to vote for it, they call it 'bipartisan.' I don't think 1% bipartisan is legit, any more than I think 1% of the proceeds going to charity is actually charitable, or 1% truth is actually true. But I wanna know what you think.
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think you're right, and I'd go further. For a vote or deal to be properly considered bipartisan, I'd suggest it would normally need an actual majority from both parties involved. I think the official position of the parties can be significant too. I don't think individual members rebelling against their official party position, even if it is a lot of them, would make the issue any less partisan (if anything, that could be more partisan).

    I think it typically boils down to putting the perceived benefit to the party over supporting what is actually best for the people and the country, which is the main problem with partisan politics in general.
     
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    A true bipartisan bill would have the support of the majority of both parties. I agree, having one or two or a handful of the other party voting for your bill doesn’t make it bipartisan. Could less than a majority of both parties be considered bipartisan. I think it depends on the circumstances. If the leaders of both parties agree, then less than 50% from one party could be considered bipartisan. I’d say it all dependents on the stances both major parties take on the bill. If both major parties are for the legislation or whatever, then it’s bipartisan. If one opposes the other regardless of the percentage, it’s not.
     
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    Majority of both parties.
     
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    The "Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013" passed Senate with 68-to-32 vote.

    That's bi-partisan.

    Too bad the House Speaker Boehner (boner) refused to allow it to be debated in the House, let alone being voted upon. Had it been allowed, we would have a wall at the border by now.

    Often times politicians prefer to keep problems rather than fixing them, because problems are good political ammunition.
     
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    Bipartisan is a silly word. Nothing is bipartisan. The correct word is non-partisan. Some things are not partisan.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Like what? Im sure theres something our politicians dont use as a political football, but I cant think of it...
     
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    The two terms refer to different things. Bipartisan would be were there is some kind of agreement or concession between two parties despite their political differences. Non-partisan refers to something (or someone) who doesn't favour or support any political party in the first place.

    There could be a bipartisan agreement over a non-partisan issue (due to unrelated political manoeuvring) and there could be a bipartisan agreement over a partisan issue (due to concession or quid pro quo).
     
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    Non partisan means it is not a partisan issue. There should be no partisan issues yet every issue appears to be partisan.
     
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    It isn't the issues that are partisan (or bipartisan), it is the proposed solutions.
     
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    In recent history, I would say bi partisan means a shift to the left.
     
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    I think you need to have dissent on the winning party's side and 20 to 25% of the other party's side and you would have a clearly bipartisan deal.
     
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    Bi partisan is when both sides take care of our business and not theirs.
    You know, they do the jobs they were sent to washington to do.
     
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    Heck, women's soccer and movies are partisan issues these days which shows we are being pushed in the wrong direction. I say "being pushed" because there is an organized effort to twist non-issues into issues. US athletes hardly ever sing, but all of a sudden the women's team is attacked mercilessly for not singing, and it was only because certain factions decided to make a big deal out of nothing.
     
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    It is a little hard for me to have much enthusiasm for the women's soccer team. I don't care for their politics at all. It would be better if they kept their politics to themselves. Sports are not the way to sway political opinion. They are athletic competition and should be limited to that.
     
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    Not true. Partisans invent partisan issues all the time.
     
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    I don't think I have EVER seen a US team sing, be it NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, MLS, NCAA (of any kind) and I watch a lot of sports. People like you are outraged this time, because you were told to be outraged. Mind games work. Propaganda works. If FOX, etc had not made it about politics, no one would have noticed anything out of the ordinary. Americans don't sing, not even they are drunk.

    Sway opinion? But that is EXACTLY what FOX, Haley etc did. So.....you admit its not meant to be a contest to show who is and isn't being patriotic by pretending to sing?
     
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    To me, its is like 2 rival gangs agreeing to team up for a big job and more loot to split up.
     
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    the recent UFO hearing, lol. Which was pretty awesome, btw.
     

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