What do you think will happen if Obama is NOT 'elected' for the next four years?

Mrs. Crump ... is that you?

 

I didn't vote for Bush II only Bush I, still learning the two party system was a scam, back then. I knew what would happen when Bush II went to the WH, and the neo-con artist, hypocrite didn't make a liar out of me. Sadly I knew what Obummer was going to do too. Still batting 1000.

 

5th grade English??

 

The ability to express one's self clearly is the hallmark of an educated person.

 

Nothing changes unless Ron Paul is elected. It's as simple as that.

 

Does that assume that you are satisfied that the status quo is fine, since there is not ANY chance of Paul ever being elected president?
If obama is defeated, it WILL be by a Republican. NOT the Republican Paul, but some other Republican. Since ALL of obama's opponents ARE Republicans, all would effect as much or more change than Paul.

 

Well come on now! You know better than to say never! I agree Ron Paul will not win as the Republican nominee.... but there is a chance he could run independent and win. But beyond that it will be some other candidate (in the near future) who also believes in following the constitution. That WILL happen someday. How long it takes will directly correlate with the pain and suffering the people of the country have gone though.. unfortunately.

 

I personal like Paul yet he will not win. I doubt he runs as an independent. Rand his son would possible face retribution from the party.

 

Ok it's you Mitt ...

 

There is NO chance of Ron Paul being elected president as a Republican, Libertarian, Whig, Independent, or OWS Party. There never was, there never will be. Paul is already too old. He is already older than the oldest President ever REELECTED, and far older than the oldest president ever elected. Plus check our history and see how many persons have been elected president on their third or more tries? None have. None have EVER been a serious candidate. Paul has already proven to NOT be a serious candidate. We are about 40% through the primary process, he has yet to win a state. His delegates count is a joke, one that everyone has heard before, in 1988 and 2008.

Certainly one can say NEVER when one is aware of reality and not lost in some dreamworld.

Can someone else in the future champion some or many or all of Ron Paul's ideas and issues? Certainly, but that won't be Ron Paul. And the person that tries to run as Ron Paul 2.0, will also NEVER be elected. He will HAVE to seek election on his OWN merits, not those of a has been that NEVER was.

 

That's because republicans are not conservatives, fiscally responsible, or a small government constitutionalist party. If they were he would have already been elected instead of Obummer.

 

Are you serious?

What makes you think any of this? No Republican has shrunk the size of government in over a half century.

Thinking Republicans shrink goverment makes you part of the problem. At least the Democrats are semi-honest and admit they want bigger government. Republicans do their carny act about smaller government and all the rubes shell out for them.

 

"There is NO chance of Ron Paul being elected president as a Republican."

Actually,

"There is NO chance of Ron Paul being elected president."

is a better, complete, and more accurate sentence.

 

Nothing in your bold print changes what I said.

 

with Obama things will get worse, without Obama things can only get better.

 

I know that. Your opinion remains your opinion. Right or wrong, your opinion is your responsibility.

 

the rich will be very happy they will not pay high capital gains taxes on their wealth and just saturate their bank accounts with more money

the poor will have to get jobs and get off welfare because there will be no more redistribution of wealth or entitlement spending.

it would be harder for the homosexuals and women who want abortions as well.

 

　
　
The facts clearly show that;
...republicans are not conservatives, fiscally responsible, or a small government constitutionalist party. If they were he (Paul) would have already been elected instead of Obummer.
　
　
Just the facts, sorry it hurts for you to hear them.
　

　
　
There are no jobs and welfare will always be a part of the plutocracy. Things like welfare, and an inadequate public funded education system assures less competition, plenty of sheeple, and a continued rich/elite domination for generations to come. If you are for destroying the USA, vote the party line, and hope for change.
　

　
Those will always be topics for political discussions to keep away from the looting of America by the rich/elites. You give too much credit where none is due. Very little if anything will change if Obummer isn't in the WH come January. Different day, same two party scam.

 

No matter how much you believe your wholly misguided opinions, they are opinions just the same. NOT FACTS.

Just as this commentary is my opinion, not a fact.

Here is a couple of FACTS.

The last REPUBLICAN DEFICIT was $160.7 billion in FY 2007
The last DEMOCRAT DEFICIT was $1,299.6 TRILLION in FY 2011

Those are facts. Facts that greatly dispute your wrongful assertion that if Republicans take over nothing will change. Things changed dramatically when Democrats took over and that change was for the TERRIBLE, not for worse, TERRIBLE!
Bush increased the national debt with both a Republican Congress and a Democrat one. Total $4,899 TRILLION in 8 years,,,,,,FACT! [Average, $612.4 billion per year]
obama with a Democrat Congress has increased the national debt by $4.7 TRILLION IN 3 YEARS.......FACT! [average $1,567 TRILLION per year]

Those are very dissimilar results. FACT!

If you wish to claim that Republicans won't make things GOOD, then I can't argue. But to claim they won't make things BETTER is silly. They could do NOTHING and things would be better than what is happening due to liberal Democrat insanity.

 

Would love to argue numbers but the fact is the numbers have many discrepancies, and we still cannot get a straight answer on what the war on terror has cost this country financially.
　
　
Using deposits only as a measuring tool is only one aspect of the decline this country has had to endure due to both parties playing favorites over the last several decades.
　

I would be willing to bet a dollar to a donut, the first thing republicans say when they get in office is that things are worse than democrats led us to believe (Just like Obummer did) and the only way to correct the trend is to spend money to make money (just like Obummer and Bush did), and the first people who will get hand outs are corporate entities considered to large to fail, and the tax breaks, loopholes and exemptions will Washington like Geese heading south for winter (just like Obummer and Bush did!!!).
Very little will change and the fleecing of the American tax payer "WILL" continue if either party is in charge of the purse strings.
　
　
Yes things have gotten worse, but nothing in the way republicrats or democans have done business over the last several decades, signifies that anything will change for the better no matter who is in charge. That is just wishful thinking.

 

FACT, obummer came to office AFTER DEMOCRATS HAD CONTROLLED CONGRESS from Jan 2007 on. There were no Republicans to keep anything from him.
Fact, in Clinton's time Republicans defeated an attempt to nationalize America's healthcare. And balanced the budget and even had a small surplus. Last time that happened was in Eisenhower's time,[R]

Fact, the highest ever Republican Congress deficit was in FY 2004, $412.7 billion. 2005 was $318 billion, 2006, $248. billion 2007, $160.7 billion. Note the direction, a 60% drop from their highest ever in 4 years.
2008 Democrats control Congress. Deficit $458.6 billion, higher than the all time Republican record. 2009 $1,412.7 TRILLION, First TRILLION dollar deficit and $1 trillion higher than the Republican record high. 2010, $1293.5 TRILLION, A 7.5% PULLBACK. 2011, $1299.6 TRILLION, A SLIGHT INCREASE. Projected for FY 2012, $1,327.0 TRILLION.
VASTLY higher numbers than the Republicans generated and the Republican number were BAD. Just not insane.

I give the Republicans 2 points out of 100 and the Democrats 0 points out of 100. We've got to go for the 2 points. Paul is a joke, in 3 decades he accomplished nothing in Congress.

What did the Democrats "INHERIT" from the Republicans? The inheritance took place in 2007, not 2009. The Democrats got a US revenue of $2,568 trillion, the most revenue EVER. and a deficit of $160.7 billion. 9 times less than the Democrats run up each year.

 

　
　
Being the majority doesn't make you absolute power, not the way republicans controlled congress from 2000-2006. Democrats did exactly what Bushco wanted in the first stimulus with absolutely zero oversight which was in 2008, and carried over into the biggest part of 2009. Bush also could have easily vetoed anything democrats wanted to do but didn't. All these are facts as well.
　
　

　
　
Clinton also signed the republicans trade fiasco that is crippling our economy because republicans guaranteed him that jobs would “NOT” evacuate immediately as a result, but not only was that a complete and total lie, a republican congress created grant/subsidies programs, tax exemptions/loopholes/breaks that allowed corporate entities to use tax payer money to build factories out of the country to make the exodus of jobs happen that much faster, which is still going on today due to a joint effort by the best government corporate money can buy.
　
　
Oh and I find your last part of this comment extremely humorous since republicans said for years after the Clinton days that there was no surplus, it was completely fabricated by democrats to make Clinton/Gore look better than they actually were, but now that Newt is a front runner, and republicans are grasping for anything that makes them look viable, there was a surplus but now it was they (republicans) who created it. Well I wish the hell republicrats and democans would make up their (*)(*)(*)(*) minds and stop the constant flip flopping and lying to the delusional sheeple known as their constituents!!!

　
　
Again (not saying that they wouldn't have achieved it anyway but) Bush signed for all those deposits even though democrats didn't have a major majority. Bushco republicans also convinced democrats to provide the first too big to fail stimulus that didn't do anything but line the pockets of the already rich.

　
I agree 10 years of war, and tax breaks & 2-3 freebees/handouts & corporate welfare to the richest of the rich will lead to this sort of insanity, and both democans and republicrats did their share over the last decade to create this situation. Neither is or should be exempt from scrutiny. Obummer took what republicans gave him and ran with it making it even worse (there is no doubt), but to date nothing republicans are promising will change that, and spending will continue for the next few years doesn't matter who is in charge. You will be hearing it from either party come January, you have to spend it to make it, and read my lips BS rhetoric being spouted by republicans will be exposed as just another lie if they get control.
　
Look the stuff republicans are promising might reduce the deposit some, or at least give the illusion of such, but it will bankrupt the government more meaning the debt will eventually escalate not decline.
　

　
　
Well you are ignoring reality and giving way too much credit (even that small kindness) where none should be given. Republicans are or should be on a short leash from their last attempt at destroying the nation from within. You give them carte blanche and we are doomed, same as if we continue to allow democrats to run amuck as the tag team partners for the rich/elites that control both parties, that they are.
　
Your head or gut, choices are not very appealing in any case.

　
　

8 years of a non-conservative, fiscal irresponsible, big government, neo-con artists regime, which painted the true face of the republican party. Neither party is the answer, they "ARE" the problem!!! Can't say it any plainer than that. You admit you have little to no, confidence in republicans, but are willing to bet the farm to prove yourself right, but we already bet the farm years ago, and neither party has proven themselves worthy of our trust. Instead of saying never again you want to continue an irresponsible level of faith where none is due!?
　
　
　

　
　
　
There was no surplus in 2007? Where are you getting this dribble. Bushco tax cuts during world operations including two foreign wars saw nothing but deposits, no gains, deposits. Granted not as large as the Obummer train wreck but irresponsible deposits none the less.
　
Paul is being railroaded by both parties and for good reason he isn't a political elitist, he isn‘t one of them and he votes with integrity which is why he cannot accomplish anything in a den of unethical bought and paid for sock puppets. Nobody says everything he wants is right but him being against the corporate norm, will offset the grid lock and open people's eyes as to the arse f(*)(*)(*)ing the American middle class has been getting from both criminal political parties!!
　
　
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. If the American voter hands the keys to the USA piggy bank over to the republicans again without any stipulations as to how they are expected to act and the power to assure they will act accordingly, we might be prolonging the inevitable for a few months at most, but if the two party scam prevails we as a nation lose, and we don't have that much more to lose on such an irresponsible gamble as to believe republicans are better than they were before, and now they are our saviors. Like placing a tourniquet around your neck for a head injury.

 

Reality challenged? Choices ARE, Republicans or Democrats. NO 3rd choice.
You don't like that, fine, me neither. But that is the reality and I'm dealing with reality.
And Europe has multiple parties, LOOK how well its working out for them. The SAD shape WE are in is FAR better than the crisis ALL of them are in.

 

　
　
Reality!
　
　

　
　
Companies/corporations pay no corporate taxes consumers do, and corporations leave the country to keep from paying livable wages in the US. They hate the USA!
　
　

　
　
Constantly and consistently the first 6 years of the Bush administration they venomously denied the existence of any surpluses. Then in 2008 they claimed there were and they created them.
　
　

　
　
All you have to do is take off the blinders and open your eyes, I can't do that for you. and choosing between a democan or republicrat is like choosing between the gallows or a firing squad!! No choice at all!!

 

I give you FACTS and figures, you give me back lame opinions.. You got nothing.