What does it mean if you would rather live among characters in Game of Thrones than real life?

The more time I spend among the public in the United States, the more I wish I could just vanish inside the world of Game of Thrones somehow. I'm not a great warrior... probably much more the Tyrion Lannister kind of person than a "Jon Snow"....

But the truth is that I do drink, and I do know things! And I don't have a good feeling about where this country is going from here. We've got a psychological civil-war going on now, and it's only going to get worse.

Am I going crazy, or is it all the rest of you...?

 

If you look at Americans as a collective, they can be pretty disappointing. But when you meet them one on one, you find a number of wonderful people.

Besides, if I were going to go to some fantasy world - G of T would not be one the list.

 

Same is true for people in any country, Daniel. But it's especially disappointing that we, collectively, the richest and most powerful nation on Earth, so often behave like a gigantic gaggle of over-indulged morons who have completely lost touch with reality.

."I've got dragons, and you have Congress.... So, who's living in a 'fantasy' world...?!"

 

We Canadians have an advantage in that we have three major political parties that could elect somebody to the office of Prime Minister in most elections........ This forces to be less black and white in our thinking......... and more diplomatic if we actually want to be involved in politics up here.

 

It means you don't mind watching overtly sexist, violent, melodramatic garbage?

Also, it means you probably don't quite grasp what life was like for the average medieval peasant. You do see yourself as the peasant you would undoubtedly be, right? You're not silly enough to imagine you'd somehow, magically, be one of the .00001% nobility?

 

If I was the one with the dragons, maybe.

Things might get as bad as GoT here, maybe. But until then, I'm happy to leave the nobility and the warriors and the dragons as a pastime.

 

Conservatives in GoT: Winter is NOT coming. Climate change is a lie spread by the North to spread their pro-wilding agenda..
Trump in GoT: We are going to build a wall in the north and the White Walkers are going to pay for it.
Liberals in GoT: Daenerys Targaryen for Queen! It is time for a woman to sit on the Iron Throne.

 

I dunno, life seems pretty rough for the .00001% nobility too in GoT.

 

Well, GoT is set up to be enjoyable (at least to watch from a distance). Fictional worlds are easy to create, obviously worlds can be thought up that seem better than our world.

And as someone else pointed out, you're much more likely to be able to drink and know things in today's world of mass production and education/internet than you would be in GoT.

 

The more money and grants that go into the 'studying global warming and its effects' fad, the more 'factual' and 'real' it becomes. lol what a hoot.

 

Yes. There has indeed been an exponential rise in the numbers of idiots educated far beyond their intellectual capabilities since the invention of the printing press; just about any absurdity can have a following in the millions within weeks, if not months, these days.

 

Yes. There has indeed been an exponential rise in the numbers of idiots educated far beyond their intellectual capabilities since the invention of the printing press; just about any absurdity can have a following in the millions within weeks, if not months, these days.

 

Yes. There has indeed been an exponential rise in the numbers of idiots educated far beyond their intellectual capabilities since the invention of the printing press; just about any absurdity can have a following in the millions within weeks, if not months, these days.

It's debatable if she 'has' the dragons or they have her, at least from my viewing of the show. They seem to be following a prophecy, not her whims. They have turned on her in some instances, indicating an independent goal. 'Fire dragons', 'Ice People Invasions' ... get it? Bet the dragons fight the Ice People from beyond the wall? Maybe they already have; I quit watching in Season three.

 

From my personal viewpoint, it is OK to discuss anything about "Game of Thrones" -- just so long as it doesn't include any SPOILERS that would ruin the enjoyment of the show for those who haven't seen everything all the way through the current Season 7. I wish a plague of gut-eating worms on anyone who plants SPOILERS. I'm not saying that you have done this... I'm just making it clear what I think is appropriate, and what is not regarding any entertainment series.

BTW, I quit reading the books after Volume Three. Mr. George R. R. Martin's ability to turn fascinating novels into a scattered splattering of disconnected, unfocused, boring crap was rescued by the magnificent writers for the HBO series, and I'm very thankful to them for that. This is one of those very rare situations where the televised version of a story is vastly superior to the books it was based on -- or at least all of those after Volume Three....

 

I think they've already admitted to making the story lines up as they go along now, having outrun the books, and are just keeping the 'franchise alive at this point. My guess is based on the obvious, really, and I don't think I'm the only one who notes the eventual and inevitable clash of the 'Ice People' vs 'the giant fire breathing lizards' thing. I can't spoil anything, since I quit watching the thing at season three.

And yes, the series was indeed far better than the books, but I didn't make it past the first few chapters of the first book, either, so I don't really know; all the stereotyped characters bored me pretty early.

 

Please don't be upset... as I said, I did not say that you had planted any "spoilers". And I'm very grateful that the writers for the HBO series rescued the story from the eventually boring, abstruse drivel that Martin made of his own work....

But, I do feel sorry for you that you missed my favorite line from the whole series so far --

 

I'm not upset.

And, the drunk dwarf is my favorite character in the series, and I understand his role got expanded in the later episodes as well.

 

we have more then 2 parties too, but the majority of people vote for the top two, so those are the real choices

 

Pollycy:

You are rightly reasonable to be disgusted and lamentatious about the direction in which this country has been heedlessly heading for a very long time; I would say that the directional course this country is on began in the late Nineteenth Century. I am going to interject a subtopic into my response now. You and others may deem the insertion of this additional thought as irrelevant, but it is what it is. Since the inception of this country, there has been a festering problem, that has never been addressed, only used as a political football by both sides, but it is real, present and has spread into the overall body-politic and has manifested in seemingly unrelated terms and aspects. What I am driving at is the unhealed festering wound that has become malignant, like any other neglected wound on a body. It is manifest in personalities such as Albert Sharpton, groups like BLM, and the basic divisions that has driven a wedge. Do not get me wrong, division is healthy and good, but this division has been exploited and neglected to the point of cancer. If there was not a place for persons such as Albert Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and others, they would not have a platform. Does this have anything to do with economics? Yes it does. Does this have to do with political atmosphere? Yes it does. Does this have anything to do with Allah? Yes it does. Does this have anything to do with people being lost? Yes it does. I could go one but I will stop here with one more issue. I was listening to an online broadcast yesterday, and the host made a comment that was not only offensive to me, but exposed part of the core of the problem of America that has manifested into a multiplicity of seemingly unrelated problems in America. I will close and state, that until people begin to be wholly honest with themselves instead of seeking shelter from the core issue of America and the overall world in general, it will continue to fester.

P.S. The issue that I have brought to the front makes it easy for people to exploit and blame Mr. Trump, in order to negatively divide the country on specious causes. Most people who are familiar with me, should know that I am a hard Trump supporter and it bothers me that people in their ways makes Mr. Trump an easy target, which is wrong and I blame them solely.

 

I'm an old guy who has lived through everything from outright segregation against Black people when I was a child, through the "Civil Rights Era" when I was a teenager and young 20's-something, and now, in the aftermath, the horrible disappointment in how all of it turned out.

Without a recitation of the whole history, suffice to say that there were horrible, egregious wrongs against Black people in this country right up through World War II. These were finally and conclusively dealt with correctly in the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. But even after that, there was rioting in major American cities, burning, looting, beatings, killings, and every kind of civil disorder.

After that came a period of 'appeasement' which gave Blacks preference through what is still known to this day as "Affirmative Action", but which is cursed by most Whites as "reverse-discrimination". Whole segments of goods and services contracts to the Federal Government became rigidly restricted so that only racial and "disadvantaged" minorities could even submit bids and participate. These are referred to as "Small Business Set-asides". All of this continues right up through this present day -- but you never hear about it in the mainstream, hyperliberal media.

Now, here we are, more than 50 years after all the Civil Rights legislation became law in this country, and what do we have? Blacks raising hell about this, that, and every other thing imaginable -- as though it's all the fault of White people. Blacks make up less than 14% of the U. S. population, but they are given just over 34% of all government handout welfare.

So, what have we done? What have we achieved? How have we actually improved the lives of any Americans, regardless of race? Have we achieved nothing but the rise of violent, radical hate-groups like ANTIFA? Do youthful 'crusaders' have no loftier aspirations than rioting, looting, and the destruction of old Civil War statues? During my lifetime it appears that we have done little more than replace one bigoted, hypocritical tyranny with an opposite but equal one. Meanwhile, our adversaries throughout the world see ALL of this, and know that the more we destroy ourselves, the less time and effort they need to devote to dealing with it....

I'm an old guy, and now I've lost any hope I had for a better United States of America. We will simply slide on down and eventually drown in this toilet full of sh*t we've made for ourselves....

. Goodbye, America....

 

AMIN! (AMEEN!)

 

Good morning Pollycy,

Yesterday, when I posted the reply to your post (my reply is “post 19”) I was not referring to the topics; racism, civil rights, or government. I was referring to the lack of moral candor (moral purity) and selective morality, which is actually immorality. My positions and opinions of racism, civil rights, and government are already well-known. I was, as usual, pointing out the pervasive immorality that has been present from inception. In the beginning, it started out as hypocrisy and over time it has morphed into immorality (ragtime, gay nineties, roaring twenties) and then it grew into amorality, the Beatniks, Hippies, and present-day stalwarts such as Albert Sharpton, Antifa, BLM, and others, which is why I mentioned them yesterday. Such people and entities are emblems of the growing problem(s) in the country; the problem of lack of morality. At the same token there are the talking heads of hypocrisy pointing their jaded fingers at the others, when these same talking heads are merely a different expression of the same lack of moral candor problem.

As Nabi Isa stated in al-Jadid, “There is a way that seems right to a man, but the ends thereof are the ways of death.” The opposite is equally as true, “There is and are ways that seem wrong to a man, but the ends there of are the ways to life (mental moral life and longevity).

 

I think I understand more clearly the focus of your discussion. It will require more time for thought and deliberation than I have right now, but, please allow me to suggest the relevant portions of a book entitled, "The Days of Vengeance", by David Chilton: https://www.amazon.com/Days-Vengean...1&keywords=days+of+vengeance+by+david+chilton

And I would direct your attention especially to the topic of "epistemological self-awareness" and its dynamic in the world today....

 

Interesting.

I'm an old guy too.

I have a different perspective despite feeling much same disappointment in many of outcomes of some of our generation's most promising victories and progress.

But, I also recall that at the time, that many holding contemporary social attitudes claimed that the America they knew, as well as the rest of the world,was going down the crapper.

Every generation is faced with a clustermuck that they inherit and then generally incrementally make things a little better and a little worse.

I figure today is one helluva a lot safer place than in the 60's when Nikita was banging his shoe in the UN desk screaming "we will bury you". It ain't a safe place mind you, but it is a safer one in my book.

Course, I guess we could also be guilty of the ol' "back in my day, sonny" perspective that comes from attaining geriatric status.