What happens next.

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

    Destroyer of illusions Well-Known Member

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    Now that the election results are in, we can also figure out what happens next.

    Few people wrote about this yesterday, but in addition to Trump winning the presidential election, the Reds have taken both houses of Congress and 9 of the 13 governorships are theirs too (this is secondary, but significant since the Resps now have 27 governors instead of 22).
    As I write this, Congress is 52 to 44 and three more are counting (of which two are likely to be red too).
    November 7th, and the Reds have taken power again - it's symbolic! (Happy holiday, by the way, comrades!).

    So, on to trends and implications.
    Let's start with a Ukrainian junkie. The junkie wrote a whole page of text about how happy he was that his favorite Donald won, how he always supported him, how he hopes for deep cooperation , how the junkie really wants to get more money and weapons, and so on.
    Other presidents have written briefly, in the style of “Congratulations.” but this one wrote a whole page. Why? Because a Ukrainian drug addict is wildly afraid.


    There's panic and mourning in Brussels. The whole bunch of mutts who shrieked for Kamala and called Trump the last words are digging trenches in horror, erases tweets and trying to re-shoe in the jump.
    British Foreign Secretary David Lamer congratulated “racist, kukluksklanow and Nazi” (that's what he used to write) Trump on his victory, recalling the centuries-old friendship between the two nations (like Jews and Palestinians, yep).
    Farage, who previously spoke at Trump's campaign rally, slaps Prime Minister Starmer (who sent a team of British political strategists to help Harris) with the words “So, stooge, who's the daddy?”.
    Orban slowly and methodically (with a nonchalant but satisfied look) slaps Ursula with a big pink dildo on her feeble-minded forehead.

    Netanyahu also congratulated Trump on his victory. Many people have already written that Donald is going to flood him with money and weapons, but it's not a fact - the last time they met there was something very wrong. I don't know the details, of course, but the fact is that Beebe left Donnie very upset, it was evident from the photos and video.
    By the way, Bibi fired his defense minister. Apparently because the Israeli army has already successfully defeated everyone. Oh, wait...something doesn't add up.:roflol::roflol::roflol:

    I almost forgot. Back in Germany, Scholz fired Finance Minister Lindner, after which the government coalition collapsed. Now in January there will be a vote of confidence/non-confidence in Scholz himself, and if he fails it - early parliamentary elections in Germany (around March).
    Good time for escalation, eh?:party:

    Somehow everyone is convinced that Trump is now going to rush to blackmail Putin to end the war as quickly as possible. He won't succeed, after which he will, quote, “be forced to start supplying the Kiev regime with money and weapons to force Putin to negotiate.”
    Really?:roflol::roflol::roflol:

    First of all, Putin can't be forced to do anything. It's about time he learned that (and Donnie has demonstrated that he is trainable - otherwise he wouldn't have won this election).
    Secondly, Trump is now going to cut the costas in reverse. As someone who has been through bankruptcy several times, he knows exactly what to do about cash gaps.
    Thirdly, in the red Congress there will be a large faction of “Freedom Caucus”, that is, radical conservatives who are categorically against any assistance to Ukraine. And there is no reason for Trump to quarrel with them for the sake of some Zelensky.
    And, fourth, the possible escalation does not fit into the announced plan to “split China and Russia. Rather, as some colleagues have already suggested, Trump will try to start licking Putin in every possible way. The easiest way to do this is to dump Ukraine.
    And it will be extremely easy for Trump to do so. Because
    a) it's not his problem, he didn't start this conflict, it's all the fault of his predecessors (pure truth in this case).
    b) he can say “We have an unfinished fence, we have hurricane damage, we have a bridge in Baltimore not repaired, we have a bunch of other problems - what the hell is Ukraine?” and most Americans (including many Democrats) will say “Yes! This is our people's president!”.
    Just pretend there is no Ukraine - and go about their other business (Vance, by the way, has been voicing just about that for the last couple months). That's exactly what I would do if I were him.
    Trump has a lot of things to do, from cleaning up Democratic officials and granting amnesty to those convicted in the January 6 case to “Okay, who had 83 criminal cases against me?”.
    Do you really think he's going to rush out with his hair fluttering to solve the conflict in Ukraine? Why would he do that?
    He has a conflict with his internal enemies who hate him and have already tried to kill him three times. He has a conflict with the British. He has a conflict with the Eurobureaucracy. And he still has to purge the Republican party of McConnell, Cheney, Romney and others like them.
    He is alone against the witch world of the globalist establishment.
    Plus, there are the cases of Israel and Taiwan, which are clearly a higher priority than the fate of some drug-addicted clown.
    This is not to mention the socio-economic problems within the States themselves. For example, there is an urgent need to solve something with Boeing and Intel, which are “too big to fall”, but still falling fast.
    And one could go on for a very long time listing all the pressing problems that need to be solved - from worn-out infrastructure and crime to homelessness and drug addiction.
    And with limited resources (including time), you have to deal with the priority problems first.
    How do you envision a possible confrontation with Russia when Trump has enemies inside and enemies in Europe? And the top priority is China!
    Plus Trump liked the fact that he didn't start any new wars in his first term. And I highly doubt that he will want to risk escalation with Russia, which could escalate into a nuclear war (and without that, there is nowhere to escalate, everything is already escalated to the limit). Especially when Russia has “escalatory dominance” (i.e., to put it in plain language - Russia's capacity for escalation is greater).

    P.S. The situation, of course, can develop differently, but I try to rely on reality and consider different options, choosing the most probable (and describe the logic of my reasoning, unlike some).
     
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  2. rkhames

    rkhames Well-Known Member

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    Wow, so much male bovine excrement in one post.

    First, the "Red" party in this country are Conservatives. The opposite of Communists, Comrade!! Conservatives believe in Capitalism and Free Enterprise. Those are the opposite to the cornerstones of Communism.

    Since you are offering illusions let me offer some of my own. (The chance of this happening is slim to none, but on the other hand, it could happen.) What is the best way to put up a huge roadblock to the start of the Trump Administration? For the enemies of the US to stage several preemptive strikes on our allies. China invades Taiwan, North Korea invades South Korea, Russia attacks the Baltic States in order to start a war with NATO and Iran start putting troops on the ground in Israel. All before Trump is Inaugurated. With Biden's mental decline he would be unable to mount a credible response. Trump would come unto office and have to focus on Foreign Policy that he could not even start undoing the domestic messes that Biden created.
     
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    I predict simply that the president elect will
    A: Have a disabilitating heart attack soon.
    B: Incur incapacitating bone spurs.
    C: Gunshot, likely by right wing shooter, incapacitates him.
    D: Stroke.
    E: Alzheimer's goes out of control.

    Any of the above prior to his first day in office. Likely prior to the vote by the electoral college if Republicans win the house after if not.
     
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    Looks like the gravy train is over for Ukraine

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    Didn't you also predict there was no way he could win?

    Sounds like you are saying that Democrats will find some nefarious way to assassinate him and attribute it to some other cause.
    Maybe a heart attack gun by the CIA or something?
     
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    You're weird. Nothing will come from the Left, not their style. He has what he wants, he can now sell stock in "Truth Social". Federal criminal charges not prosecuted. Still has to face NY and Georgia prosecution and sentencing but those cases will undoubtedly get picked up by the feds so they too can be killed. Until the NY case get killed he will be unable to travel to many countries.
    Like I said, he has what he wants. Real work not on the list.
     
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    Destroyer of illusions Well-Known Member

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    We'll see.

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    Isn't photoshop great! You can make all kinds of fake pictures.
     
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    Destroyer of illusions Well-Known Member

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    That's right. The most important thing is that people understand irony and humor.
    By the way, Time about Putin's speech at Valdai - “Russia has made it clear that if the United States wants the peace deal promised by Trump, it will have to pay for it, and the price for Ukraine will be extremely high. Putin sent a signal: if you want a deal, you will have to get on your knees.”
     
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    Too much information from people who know little.
     
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    Trump and com[any will take an hour to sip Champaign and celebrate then get down to work naming a transition team and executives and cabinet secretaries.
     
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    You must be a genius of political intrigue if you write like that. Maybe you can share with us your vision of future events?
     
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    Destroyer of illusions Well-Known Member

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    The most important thing is that the fourth assassination attempt doesn't succeed. Or the man will drink a glass of champagne and ... no man.
     
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    You're right. I am a genius of political intrigue. Check my past posts and you will see I predicted a Trump win and also that he would carry all 7 battleground states. How was that for sharing future events? You can learn a lot by reading my posts.
     
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    It is very difficult to predict what will happen next because:
    Trump is totally unpredictable
    Putin is very predicable person - he is a KGB officer and KGB never hired unpredictable people.

    I remember long time ago, before 'special military operation', when president Bush was praising Putin, I worked with a Russian guy who was telling to everyone in the office that Bush is an idiot and Putin will invade all Russia neighbors.
    Lets hope the Russian guy was only partially right.
     
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    I don't see a confrontation with Trump and Russia. I see just the opposite. Trump is going to end the war with Ukraine by threatening to cut off money and weapons to them. That's what's got Europe and NATO up in arms. They know that's what Trump is planning on doing. If we give into Russia, they are afraid Russia will try and take over more countries, many in NATO. They aren't sure if Trump won't give in on Israel and Taiwan either.

    We signed an agreement with Ukraine if they gave up their nuclear weapons, we, Britain and Russia would protect them from invasion. Trump would be going against that agreement if Trump stops arming Ukraine. As it is, not soon after signing that agreement, Senator Obama went to Ukraine with another Senator and talked Ukraine to give up almost all their weapons, leaving Ukraine defenseless. Which I'm sure is the reason Russia attacked Crimea. Later attacked the whole country after President Obama refused to give Ukraine as much as a rifle or bullet to protect Crimea. Russia had to believe that Biden would do the same thing Obama did. He was his VP. Why not attack the whole country? I blame Obama for that war. For the loss of billions of dollars and weapons we may need if China attacks Taiwan. Will Trump let China have Taiwan? That could be a blood bath fighting within 100 miles of China and traveling thousands of miles trying to resupply our forces there. We lost over 1,500 ships doing that in WWII.
     
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    Destroyer of illusions Well-Known Member

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    If you're a genius, tell us what happens next.
     
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    Destroyer of illusions Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. Your friend was only partially right. Bush really is an idiot.
     
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    1. Russia did not attack Crimea. Crimea held a referendum to secede from Ukraine and become part of Russia. The referendum was held under the control of international observers (including from the United States). No violations were recorded.
    2. Trump will stop supplying Ukraine not because he wants to end the war, but because there is nothing he can do. Also Europe, NATO, and whoever else can't do anything. Everything they can do they have already done. From unprecedented economic sanctions to NATO's direct involvement in the conflict against the Russians.
    3. As Bismarck said - “the Russians always get theirs back”. I am sure that the rest of the former Soviet Union and at least Eastern Europe will enter the sphere of influence and interests of Russia.
    All the talk about “rights of nations”, “democracy” and other idiocy is irrelevant. For some reason Europe, USA and other western sixes are silent about “democracy” and “rights of nations” in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan .... European humanity shut up during the bombing of Yugoslavia.
    Now it's time for retaliation. And all the cries about “rights” are of no interest to anyone.
     
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    What happens next.

    I will continue to live my life same as I did prior to the election.
     
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    "Not their style"?

    These left has demonstrated they have no moral barriers to any kind of conduct they thought might destroy Trump. Anything they can get by with is their style.
     
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    I agree, Trump has probably already called Putin and said Ukraine will be yours, merry Christmas
     
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    ^THAT is a Certainty...
     

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