What I Have Learned About the 'Gay Rights Agenda'

Seems you do care though or you would not have taken the time to post.

With this post you are shoving more than your heterosexuality in people’s faces.

 

I truly do not care. And I am not pushing my sexuality on anyone.

So you want to do hawk tuahy? I really don't care I just care that no man is going to do that for me

 

Here is the thing-I'm a hard core libertarian. I had a gay suitemate in law school. He was a colonel in the Luftwaffe who after his flying days were cut short due to a vision issue, served as JAG officer and was assigned to NATO-hence he was sent to get an LLM at one of the top schools that offered a masters in laws useful to his profession. He was a great guy to share a suite with and I and the other straight guy had no issues whatsoever. One of my closest friends is a lesbian. I despised people insulting her and her lesbian wife.

But there is another side to this issue. Many gays and often rightfully so condemn the religious wing of the GOP/ as a result many gays and gay advocacy groups end up supporting causes they think will vex the anti gay right. I have run into lots of anti gun advocates whose positions seem to come from their homosexuality. and I have met some conservatives who oppose gay advocacy groups and pro gay politicians for retaliatory reasons rather than actually being bigoted.

 

I have known my share of very angry anti- Christian or anti theist gays. I won't say a lot, but the lack of number is more than made up by passion. The bias is palpable and unforgiving. I have never met any that decided to be pro gun control or anti gun, to 'piss off' religious people. They tend to hold that position because a general liberal bias in their politics lends itself to that pov. Its also true that out and proud gays have long tended to live in metro urban centers, and Urbanites poll differently on gun control than rural folk do.

If they want to piss off people of faith or Christians, don't you think they are smart enough to push the same anti-theist buttons straight anti-theists do, by by snearing at the Bible, the Genesis story, pick apart inconsistencies to talk about clerical pedophilia etc?

Not everything anti gun has some bizarre twist. Some of us just think that controling weapons of war in homes and on streets is a prudent thing to do. Believe it or not some of us are more angry about some innocent kid that got shot on a playground, than we are about being called 'sodomite' in a church.

 

In my experience there is a very specific and small subset of the LBGTQ community which I distinguish from both agnostics and atheists, which become anti-theist or anti christian,. Its all annecdotal here but the experience they shared with me, has little to do with standard bullying, namecalling or politics, but with church orchestrated efforts at 'conversion therapy' or efforts to emotionally/physically divide and separate families from LBGTQ children or teens. These incredibly traumatic and toxic efforts inevitably involve Hellfire and brimstone sermons, shunning, guilt and shame while these kids are most vulnerable and in need of unconditional love. We had families terrified that John or Elizabeth would face eternal damnation and separation from the Holy Spirit, if they did not 'change' what could not be changed, and a cleric and congregation that pressured them to do whatever it took to save that endangered soul. Its hard to gain much perspective on faith or organised religion, after enduring that kind of cruelty and terror in youth and 'God' is the direct source quoted. Its sooo much worse than a beating after school and namecalling in the halls.

I am forever grateful that my parents never allowed more radical religious views near me. I can still respect and honor diversity.