What Iceland’s rising Covid-19 case count tells us about vaccine efficacy

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  1. independentthinker

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    For any of you who have read any of my posts regarding my opinions on Delta, the following article is EXACTLY what I have been saying.

    https://qz.com/2044284/icelands-rising-covid-19-cases-demonstrate-vaccine-efficacy/?utm_source=YPL

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      By Clarisa Diaz
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      Published 2 hours ago
      In Iceland, 96% of females and 90% of males 16 years or older have received at least one dose of a Covid-19 vaccine. Its vaccination rate, one of the highest in the world, makes it a particularly interesting place to look at the incidence and severity of breakthrough infections.

      Covid-19 vaccines were first administered in Iceland at the end of 2020; by mid-July, every resident over the age of 16 was offered a shot. Yet tests show an alarming number of domestic Covid-19 infections are still happening with the onset of the delta variant.


      In the US, where vaccination rates are lower, officials have described the virus’s ongoing spread as a “pandemic of the unvaccinated.” But given the lopsided numbers of vaccinated versus unvaccinated people in Iceland, the island country is currently seeing more cases of Covid-19 among the vaccinated than the unvaccinated.


      Since the pandemic began, there have been 8,738 infections and 30 coronavirus-related deaths reported in Iceland. The country managed to control the virus relatively well and has reported only one death in 2021, on May 25.


      That there are hardly any deaths accompanying the rising case count is a good sign. The data show that vaccinated people who are getting the virus are generally recovering without serious illness.

      Iceland provides a case study for how an effective vaccine rollout perhaps doesn’t guarantee herd immunity but preventshospitalizations and deaths.





     
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    All of these covid viruses are just news media made pandemics from fear mongering.
     
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    getting covid without serious medical symptoms is not the same as getting covid with those symptoms
     
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    What I have seen is that you are confused. The pandemic as measured by the vast majority of people in hospitals and people dying, most certainly is a pandemic of the unvaccinated.

    If something doesn't put anyone or only a few people in the hospital, we normally don't worry much about it.
     
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    https://www.reuters.com/article/fac...f-that-vaccines-are-ineffective-idUSL1N2P918F

    This article shows several serious problems with the assumptions made in the press concerning vaccine protection against the delta variant of COVID in Iceland.


    SO, I posted this to you in another thread in response to this EXACT SAME ARTICLE.

    And, you ignored that and started another thread with EXACTLY the same GARBAGE!!!

    What's up?
     
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    You seem to be the confused one here, and it's easy to understand given the vast amounts of lies and deception delivered by the MSM during the last 18 months.

    Not just Iceland, but Israel, India, Malaysia, Hawaii and so many other places have seen the same sort of thing--massive vaccination efforts are followed soon by increases in positive tests showing infection.

    Of course nobody wants to talk about it, but they are simply whistling as they walk past the graveyard.

    Scamdemic explains it all.

    What we're seeing has been predicted months ago by the many conscientious healthcare workers who speak truth to power.
     
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    Vaccines do not prevent infections. They prevent illnesses caused by viruses and bacteria by priming the immune system to respond to the virus killing it before it has a chance to multiply and cause illness.
     
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    Putting 97 year olds in the hospital isn't odd for any virus
     
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    ...only 30 deaths and 8738 infections???

    Vaccines do not prevent infections. They prevent illness caused by those infections-only 30 deaths in 8738 infections.

    That's an effective vaccine
     
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    Sometimes people die or get sick even though they have been vaccinated but it's not the fault of the vaccine its the fault of the persons immune system not having an adequate immune response-such as ineffective memory B-cells not creating enough antibodies.

    I know what I'm talking about. I got an A in Microbiology at my community college 25 years ago!
     
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    So if you have so many people who are vaccinated... and not a lot who aren't vaccinated... then of course it's going to skew towards those who are vaccinated because... there are so many of them. Functionally speaking, it's just raw numbers. You would have to compare the number who are hospitalized and vaccinated to the total number of people who are vaccinated but not in the hospital, and the same for nonvaccinated.
     
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    And your statement doesn't make any sense. Young and healthy medical workers were dying. Many nurses have quit.

    Even children are dying now.

    And you all insist on ignoring that you can have permanent damage to everything from your brain to your heart and lungs with even a minor infection.

    Now why is that? Why do you cherry pick and misrepresent the facts. A person only does that when they are pushing a BS argument, and they know it.
     
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    ?? Everybody is talking about this!! Where have you been??

    The CDC has noted that the delta variant is substantially more transmissible and those vaccinated are contracting this variant at some lower level. And, those vaccinated do have at least some ability to pass the delta variant on to others.

    They are showing a tiny percent need hospitalization and essentially zero are dying. But, it does pose a risk to the unvaccinated.

    Thus there are sound reasons for increasing vaccinations AND for considering other defensive steps - including but not limited to masking and more intensive testing.
     
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    insignificantly greater numbers than they always have? Show evidence.
    drinking alcohol or eating fatty foods can do damage to your brain and heart. And breathing can the damage to your lungs it's all about the extent.
    Well I haven't Cherry picked on misrepresented any of your facts in fact if you see just above I agreed with them.

    Brain damage occurs every time you drink alcohol that's why people get drunk, lung damage returns anytime you breathe atmospheric gases heart damage occurs frankly anytime you do cardio.

    The question is the extent of the damage.

    I already had covid-19 I can't go back in time and not have it I just have to live out what life I have. And I may die of complications later on down the road or I may die in a car accident tomorrow or a meteorite could fall through the ceiling of my house and kill me tonight.

    Tomorrow is not a guarantee and I'm not going to live like it has to be in order for me to enjoy life.

    Being afraid is no way to live. I've done it, it's and I happiness and I won't go back.
     
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    Good catch!
     
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    These current injections are not vaccines.
     

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