What if the French had not surrendered in World War 2?

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  1. Kranes56

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    The reason the Germans were behind the line was because of them failing in Belgium. If the line hadn't cracked, then it would have simply became another WWI, with both sides trying to make that flanking maneuver. The Allies would have had the advantage due to the Maginot line.
     
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    The Allies had basically zero chance of stopping the Germans in Belgium.
     
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    Yeah but we're assuming that there was something that in the end made them stand a chance, otherwise they wouldn't have needed to given up at that point.
     
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    Taxcutter says:
    Yeah, the French Navy could have escaped to North Africa and taken a government in exile and some troops from Metropolitan France.

    Where would they get supplies? Without beans, bullets, gas and spare parts, North Africa would have simply become a large POW camp.

    In June of 1940, US help was still eighteen months away. The British were having to rebuild their army after Dunkerque.
     
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    I may be mistaken, but I believe North Africa was self supporting when it came to food. Bullets and gas could have been shipped as easily to North Africa as they were subsequently shipped by the U.S. to Britain.

    And with a strong French fleet helping to close the Gibralter Straights and in a position to help the the Brits interdict italian fleet supplying Libya
     
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    The French forces in North Africa survived by going completely torpid. They couldn't move, fight. or even train because they were so short of supply.
     
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    I think they would not had surrendered if the Germans did not advance through the Arden.
     
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    Taxcutter says:
    Once the Germans reached the Channel and split the British away from the French, the British were left supplied only by some small and exposed ports. They had to bug out at Dunkerque or go into POW Stalags.

    Once the British bugged out (in doing so left all their equipment in Flanders) the French were fighting alone. They had no reserves. A quarter of their army had no transport at all other than shoe leather (the troops in the Maginot Line were thought to never need to move so the French saved a few francs by not equipping them with trucks, The rest of the French army was being rolled up against the Maginot Line (which was holding firm). It was just a matter of time before the bulk of the French army was out of supply.

    When the Fifth Army collapsed the door from the Ardennes was wide open and the panzers were running rampant through a weak spot and into the Allied rear. Both allied armies lost their logistical base and were doomed.
     

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