What if Trump starts monetizing that which he has purloined?

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  1. metypea1

    metypea1 Banned Donor

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    My understanding is that any gift bestowed upon POTUS Trump by foreign dignitaries becomes property of the People of USA. There is an Emoluments clause. [Also BTW every single dang scrap of paper ever to cross the Oval Office is likewise property of USA, per NARA.]

    I figure DOJ goes real easy on former presidents and high statemen, coddling/indulging them and looking aside while they snatch up and privately treasure some/all of their acquired gifts, like that sword that the Saudis bestowed on Trump. But DJT has a bent for wanting to monetize his treasures. If he ever found a buyer for that sword, for example, and sold it for $5 million, don't you think that DOJ should then jam up Trump by pursuing a felony grand theft indictment?
     
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    Why would he have waited? To wait is not his style.....what I find shocking, is that apparently the classified docs (as well) accessed and shared in the WH are not retrieved from or tracked apparently. That means Kushner had free hand to do with them as he wished as well. That's a serious internal control weakness...
     
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    You do realize that every president since the beginning of the classification system who didn't die in office took volumes of classified documents with them when they left office.
     
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    It's not just presidents. Many intelligence and government retain their security clearances after they leave their jobs, so they still have access to classified stuff.
     
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    You're dang tootin'! When it all unfolded, 15, 16 months ago I promptly phoned my Senator and spoke with an aid and my beef - identical to what you've voiced - they captured it on tape.
     
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    Yep. But which ones received an official request from NARA for their return? And did they refuse to comply for a year, necessitating a subpoena?
     
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    Link me to your source or I call B/S.
     
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    Obama turned over every scrap of paper to the National Archives? Every one?
     
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    You guys are not answering my original inquiry: it's about the sword! ..about material gifts from foreigners while in office. If Trump went to sell that for profit then he is a thief and wouldn't DOJ be obliged to prosecute his actions as such.
     
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    Short answer, yes. However, given how long it took Garland to start the different processes/investigations, it's unlikely that Trump will go to Federal trial before the 2024 election. At the very least, it's now painfully obvious that there is a multi tiered system of justice in America and that some are afforded every benefit of the doubt while others are incarcerated in the blink of an eye..
     
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    @metypea1 this treasonous "monetizing" has probably been ongoing.
     
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    metypea1 Banned Donor

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    I had best not grow as cynical as many on this forum. I am known as and shall continue to be a moderate easy-going fellow. IOW ignorance is bliss :sleepy:. [It's just a phase, figure.]
     
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    Hi, garyd.

    I, for one, was not aware of the 'volumes'.

    Please be so kind as to post valid documentation backing the above quote for each ex-president.

    Regards, stay safe 'n well.
     
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    @garyd

    all other presidents have official libraries in which the classified stuff is protected. is the trump library really at the mara lago cabana or buried at bedminster?

    let me know if that documentation ever shows up, but, like any other crime, it does not matter if bonnie and clyde are not being caught, bank robbing will still land you in alcatraz.
     
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    And it was a request by Biden to go after he political opponent using the FBI
     
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    another fail, pop.

    if trump did not abscond with the documents there would be no reason to "go after him" to get them back.
     
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    You failed again…. After 7 years, then you have absconded, not months, and after communicating and cooperating.
     
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    He's already been paid.

    Before Giving Billions to Jared Kushner, Saudi Investment Fund Had Big Doubts

    Six months after leaving the White House, Jared Kushner secured a $2 billion investment from a fund led by the Saudi crown prince, a close ally during the Trump administration, despite objections from the fund’s advisers about the merits of the deal.

    A panel that screens investments for the main Saudi sovereign wealth fund cited concerns about the proposed deal with Mr. Kushner’s newly formed private equity firm, Affinity Partners, previously undisclosed documents show.

    Those objections included: “the inexperience of the Affinity Fund management”; the possibility that the kingdom would be responsible for “the bulk of the investment and risk”; due diligence on the fledgling firm’s operations that found them “unsatisfactory in all aspects”; a proposed asset management fee that “seems excessive”; and “public relations risks” from Mr. Kushner’s prior role as a senior adviser to his father-in-law, former President Donald J. Trump, according to minutes of the panel’s meeting last June 30.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/jared-kushner-saudi-investment-fund.html
     

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