Would that make him 'your president'? Would it matter that 51% disagree with you, rather than merely 49%? Would that mean you need to change your mind and go along with the herd?
Great question. But, you already know the answer. There is no scenario where Trump would be their president, even if he wins the popular vote.
trump could be the president with something like 25% of the popular vote — that is how archaic our EC system is. As to the rest of your questions, it doesn’t matter how many people love or worship trump — he will forever be a fraudulent piece of **** in my eyes. My entire family outside of the one lawyer and one professor loves him so I don’t think the opinions of a bunch of randos would impact my view much. What would be fascinating is if trump won the popular vote but lost the EC. I bet that would ruffle some feathers on team red.
It would send the Democrats scurrying back to the drawing board to try to figure out where their scheme went wrong.
Some truth there, but when the Democrats concocted and executed there scheme in 2019 they had no idea who the candidate would end up to be and didn't particularly care.
LOL. Out will come more impeachments if Democrats win back the House and more charges, even if they don't, trying to take him out.
I will never consider him my representative, let alone president. I refuse to be associated with whiners.
Since I live in the real world, whoever wins the election is my president whether I like it or not. (even if they won it by exploiting a virus to flood homes with mail in ballots that their blue haired bratty kids filled out on their behalf since school gets out before work!), even knowing that, the president is still the president regardless of our FEELINGS
On January 6, Congress would meet for a joint session led by VP Kamala Harris. She will count the electoral votes, hear objections from Democrats (or maybe Republicans) who vociferously oppose ratifying Trump, as the law requires her to do, and will reject them, as the law requires her to do. She will then declare Trump President elect as people scream "bloody murder!". And on January 20 2025, Biden would willfully and dutifully hand over power to him in what would likely be the last Inauguration in our History. Biden will listen to his speeches, and wish him the best of lucks. And the outgoing WH personnel will paint all the computer keyboards orange, so they can't be used (or some similar prank). Just like it has happened every time in our history except ONE. That is not as relevant a question as what will happen if Trump LOSES the vote in 2024? Another insurrection?
The popular vote would mean as much in 2024 as it did in 2016 and 2020, which is to say, not at all beyond the purely symbolic.
....until of course the Supreme Court weighed in, and assuming their challenge was determined to be unconstitutional, in which case their constitutional challenge would be retracted and it would be no harm, no foul. The judiciary providing a check on the executive branch is precisely how our system was designed. No need to get one's panties in a bundle.
Fair point. I started to read it, was interrupted by a work call, then wrongly replied to where I assumed where you were going. My bad.
It’s the Electoral College, not the national popular vote, that determines who wins the presidency. Does anyone want to weigh in why our forefathers set it up that way?
Biden won the popular vote. Obama won the popular vote, twice. Were they "your" president? I know it was popular in Trump world and during the Trump years to call on the opposition to just stop resisting and to enjoy the Trump ride. The "f Biden" flags and "let's go Brandon" chants, however, indicate that it doesn't work the other way around in Trump world. Personally, I never go along with the herd, I tend to be contrarian. The popular vote just means that the president has a mandate. Since Clinton, the GOP only had that once. The two other times, they relied on minority rule, while claiming the herd was with them. Food for thought.
In 1824, 1876, 1888, 2000, and 2016 the winner of the popular vote did not become president. Not Gore, but W won the Electoral College. Not Clinton, but Trump won the Electoral College vote and became President. Tilden lost after getting 50.9% of the popular vote. None of the other 5 losers broke 50%. None of the winners broke 50%. John Quincy Adams won after getting 31.6% of the popular vote, while Andrew Jackson got 41.4%. Andrew Jackson, a more volatile character than Trump, was not happy with the outcome. He and his supporters then started the Democratic Party.
It doesn't matter if Trump wins the popular vote, the presidential electorate is the Electoral College. Here are the states where Trump leads beyond the margin of error
