What is reality?

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  1. Interaktive

    Interaktive Well-Known Member

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    What is reality?
    is it faith
    is this true
    can olaf scholz have the truth?
    do I have the truth if I believe in my theory of everything?
    there is realism in philosophy, which claims that thoughts have no relation to reality
    my theory is not reality
    the Kennedy assassination is proof
    do you agree
     
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    reality is perception, nothing more and nothing less. it changes slightly from person to person, society to society, nation to nation...

    there is nothing profound in this, it is simply the obvious answer. reality has nothing to do with truth or faith or anyone's theories, it simply is.
     
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    is reality a feeling?
    you are a real woman))))
     
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    The only physical reality that a thought has is that there was mental activity in your brain.

    If your thought does not manifest into an action then it was nothing more than a mental activity. And as much it does not exist in reality because you cannot taste it touch it smell it see it feel it measure it, weigh it...
     
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    I think I have my own inner world
     
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    Reality = Eternal = Real
    Illusion = Temporary = Shadow

    Reality - Truth
    Faith - could be Truth or Fake (Illusion)

    Kennedy assassination is irrelevant.

    Good for you. :)
     
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    genius
     
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    I agree that peoples' view of reality can differ.

    We can work together to understand our universe.

    If there are differences of view, we can investigate that, as the conclusion that there is a different universe for each individual isn't indicated.
     
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    Degodization of economy
     
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    Now you take your undefined term that you previously connected to 3 countries and apply it to "economy"???

    You might have something to say, but your aren't saying it.
     
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    it isn't that there is a different universe for each individual, but that our understanding of it differs from one person to another. there may very well be an underlying "reality" which we will never truly understand. reality for some includes an omnipresent creator. for others it contains disembodied voices or a total absence of light. though various forces within society may attempt to impress a certain "version" of reality upon the individual, even those understandings evolve over time. we tend to define such changes as the product of our increasing understanding of the universe around us, but there is little to suggest that such definitions are anything more than our own hubris at work.

    perception is the key. we define reality through our admittedly faulty perceptions and our definitions of reality are all that we have to judge it by. is reality a constant or is it an ever changing hallucination that alters its very nature as we perceive it?
     
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    I see this as risking the view that since we don't know everything, we therefore know nothing.

    So, someone thinks there is some place where there is a total absence of light. But, we know from physics that this isn't the case in our universe.

    Discounting human progress toward how this universe works as hubris is just not legitimate. Our human knowledge is not complete, but it is also not merely the perceptions of individuals.

    There is no evidence that our progress is an ever changing hallucination.
     
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    relying on physics we only partially understand is just another trap. physics itself is the art of making rules that suit our perceptions and then changing those rules to suit our changing perceptions. i realize that this act is the very heart of the process we call science, but it is still a matter of faith. i'm not saying that we should abandon scientific endeavor or discount it entirely, only that all things should constantly be questioned. yes, much of what we consider "our progress" is hubris. we are entirely too focused on having instead of becoming. the more we depend on the technology we create, the less we allow ourselves to evolve as an intellectual species. the more we attempt to define the universe around us, the less we seem to understand ourselves.

    yes, i'm a crazy old hippie in search of enlightenment that will probably never come. yes, i indulged in entirely too much acid and similar hallucinogenic substances in my youth and continue to do so to this day. no, it has neither dulled my wits nor addled my senses. your very first sentence in this last post touched on the matter of risk, but risk is all. the safe path is for the timid and the timid are forever following false prophets. to become the prophet, even if you should fail, is a far more important task than merely remaining a member of the ovine community.
     
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    Science progress isn't about "becoming". It is about having the best knowledge that humans have achieved.

    Science does not define the universe around us.

    Given your statements here, why should we not totally ignore physics, chemistry, science based medicine, etc.?
     
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    Reality is wherever consciousness comes from, everything else is just perception.
     
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    What's your explanation for the fact that scientists from around the world agree on today's physics, chemistry, biology, climatology, etc., knowledge gained by careful measurement and observation?
     
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    Consciousness interprets everything consistently.
     
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    I am reality and existence
     
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    Really? Where did you come from? Where are you going?
     

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