What Is The Underlying Cause Of Astronomically High Black Crime Rates?

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What Is The Underlying Cause Of Astronomically High Black Crime Rates?

  1. Genetics

    23.2%
  2. Greed

    8.1%
  3. Low intelligence

    20.2%
  4. Poverty

    38.4%
  5. Other

    48.5%
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  1. Polar Bear

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    Have you tested the IQ scores of those on poverty and for those who commit most of our crimes? Please do so and then come back and tell us that the intelligence of those two groups of people is higher than average. If that is the case then I'll openly admit that I'm wrong in stating that there is a correlation between low IQ scores and poverty backed by criminal activity.
     
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    Culture and mentality are a big part of why crime rates in the Black community are high. Many people commit crimes because of the perceived feeling of desperation as well. It is not as simple as some would have you think. In order for people to stop committing crimes, the mentality has to change. Certain facets of the culture have to change(notice I said CERTAIN, as it, not all of the culture is the problem, but certain parts of it). There is not simple solution.
     
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    Would there be as much crime if a person who is unemployed could simply apply for unemployment compensation, in any at-will employment State?
     
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    Did crime go down when welfare was increased? Is crime lower in areas with higher unemployment compensation?

    You have fixated on the belief that crime is caused by poverty -even with all of the evidence to the contrary. You consistently believe that free money prevents crime - even though that has also been shown to be untrue.

    Do a little research and you will find that free money doesn't stop crime and many criminals don't come from poverty.

    And you still don't understand at-will employment. How is employment at-will if I, as an employer, am forced to pay you whether or not you work? You are effectively my employee and I have no way to stop paying you. That isn't at-will employment, that is forced employment.
     
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    Actually, crime is not as prevalent as it could be without those social safety nets. Why have we been paying for a war on poverty for over thirty years but still have poverty? I agree to disagree that free money doesn't prevent crime if all it takes is enough money to be market friendly in most cases. What excuse would a person have to commit any "sins" against our republic, if they could not claim to be in official poverty?

    There would be nothing preventing anyone who is employed from paying for half of that tax for better metrics.

    Unemployment compensation is mostly self-funded. Compare and contrast that to our current trench warfare on poverty.
     
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    There is something important to note. As the USA went into its post-industrial stage during the 1970's, cocaine started flooding predominantly Black areas. Some Black people found out that if they sold cocaine, they could make money. In the 1980's, someone found out they could make crack cocaine with a few household ingredients and a chemical process. Drugs and a high murder rate are related.

    Why did some people decide to sell drugs?

    Why was cocaine flooding Black neighborhoods instead of White neighborhoods?(which leads to the third question)

    How did the cocaine get into the USA?
     
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    Why can we still afford a War on Drugs during times of lowering taxes?
     
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    The War on Drugs is a waste of money. People are still using drugs, they just go underground with it. Portugal legalized heroin and what happened? AIDS infection rates dropped, addiction rates dropped, the crime rate related to drugs went down. Why won't the USA try something similar?
     
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    Being moral enough to bear true witness to the laws ordained and established by our Founding Fathers may still be too much of a challenge for us, even with a McCarthy era phrase in our pledge of allegiance to help out.
     
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    The underlying cause for the increasingly astroniomically high black crime rate? I believe tht it is a president and an administration that is racist in their attitude, thinking, actions and governng aimed at their supporters. Those supporters are enpowered to behave the way they are now. I don't discount the leftist controlled educational system, entertainment industry and media. They are complicit. Hugely so.
     
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    Meanwhile. back in the real world ...

    Just another example of Race in America 2012.
     
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    The black crime rate has been astronomically high since Martin Luther King got his way and civil rights were awarded, so I have no idea what you're rambling on about...
     
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    American racism, obviously. What as silly question.
     
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    What a silly observation. Black "people" are even worse behaved in Britain.

    Get to know the facts before you enter a debate. Otherwise your opinion becomes meaningless and laughable.
     
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    Stop quacking like a duck. Racism is not as obsessive in the UK, so fewer black people are locked up, but racism is general in capitalism, obviously. Interesting how few American racist know any argument but 'You're another!'
     
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    Racist learn their best stuff from Americans ... :mrgreen:

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    In my opinion, it is simply a moral failure on our part for not being able to bear true witness to our own supreme law of the land.

    Would it have occurred to anyone to invent Jim Crow laws, if all an unemployed person needed to do was apply for unemployment compensation on the same at-will basis as the concept and legal doctrine of employment at will?
     
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    Get the crazy system to provide some properly-paid work and there'll be no problem but racism, as you know.
     
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    When dealing with inept and unreasonable liberals, I always resort to Ronald Reagan's classic line of "There you go again"! That one phrase among others certainly made Walter Mondale look like the rookie joke he displayed during the election debates.
     
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    Lovely for you!
     
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    You were saying?

    More black people jailed in England and Wales proportionally than in US

    New study finds seven times more black people per population are in prison – in the US number is just four times as many
    The Guardian, Monday 11 October 2010


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    The number of black people jailed in England and Wales is seven times larger than the amount they make up of the population.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/oct/11/black-prison-population-increase-england

    Stop bahhh'ing along with the rest of the ******* sheep. You have no idea what you're talking about.
     
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    Actually, that is a great idea. At-will employment works both ways - the worker can choose whether or not to apply or take a job and the employer can choose whether or not to offer a job or hire/fire the employee.

    So if we apply the same principle for unemployment compensation, the worker can choose whether or not to apply and the people paying for unemployment can choose whether or not to give the compensation.

    Sounds great to me.
     
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    I agree to disagree simply because of any natural rate of unemployment above zero percent. Those of the opposing view have no solution to that externality and it is necessary and proper to solve for it in a more developed economy in modern times.

    Why would we have any racism if there is no official poverty in our republic to reward that form of secular and civil moral turpitude against fellow citizens of the several States?

     
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    I'm not sure I understand, but the answer is obvious - cut the working week to the point at which there is work for everyone, even under capitalism.
     
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