What is the US Presidential personality cult?

Discussion in 'Elections & Campaigns' started by yangforward, Nov 12, 2023.

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what personality would you vote for?

  1. 1 strong, starts wars, threatens countries

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    50.0%
  2. 2 other trait(s)

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  1. yangforward

    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess it's what Ronny Raygun had, he said 'we are the greatest' and threatened other countries, including Russia with his 'Star Wars'.

    Confirmation that a President should be a bully, is that's about the only thing Biden can do.

    'We can fight a war on two fronts and protect our own country', Biden said,
    while losing in Ukraine and having no clear idea what to do in the
    Middle East except to supply weapons.

    And start wars was exactly what Donald Trump failed to do. And he helped gain peace in
    the Middle East with the Abrahamic Accords.

    A Peaceful president is just not cool.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps the personality we want a US President to show is why
    a country that once had a lot of starving people, eventually reaches
    about 1/5 of the US GDP per person, by dint of a lot of hard work,
    is perceived as our bitter enemy.

    Because a cool President makes enemies with everyone he meets.
     
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    • Honest
    • Objective
    • Articulate
    • Well informed on the issues
    • Have a set of core values, but not hemmed in by ideology
    • Have enough backbone to support their principles, but not to the point of becoming argumentative
    • Have the ability to build an effective team of administrators and advisors
     
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    You seem to assume that the person who wins is the one we want. I personally think the person who wins is second place in the Who Do We Hate More contest.
     
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    This. 81 million people did not vote for Joe Biden. 81 million people voted against Donald Trump...
     
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    from your previous post I know you voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020. Can you tell me which of these quality Trump has?
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1. Honest: Donald Trump got a lot of flack for telling the truth
    2. Objective, he did get through his 4 years without starting any wars
    oh, I'm not John Hamilton.
     
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    Well , I have to disagree about the war comment

    According to you , when Putin attack Ukraine , it is Biden who stats war.

    When Hamas attack Israel, it is Biden who starts war.

    If that is the logic, don’t you think when Biden starts war, it is actually trump’s fault.
     
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    I don’t disagree with many of Donald Trump’s policies and the results, but his conduct after the 2020 election was a huge mistake.

    His other problems have to do with his inability to build effective management team, and his inability to listen to anyone who isn’t an echo chamber.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Very true, but I consider Joe's war in Ukraine (he wasn't president when he approved the coup
    which started it, but he as Vice President), to be a very serious criminal act, but only because
    I value human life more than mean tweets.

    Half a million dead soldiers and many civilians I consider worse than one person accidentally
    killed.
     
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    There are difficult calculations regarding moving the chess pieces around on the world stage. Capitalism requires good, honest relationships between governments. The big picture is beyond the grasp of most citizens, but candidates cannot say that. They pretend that your vote is a policy vote. It is not. It is a personnel vote.
     
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    Well said......
    and Trump had the courage to discuss auditing the Federal Reserve back in 2015 which is one of the reasons why all hell was unleashed against him through BigMedia..... that is owned by essentially the same people who for all intents and purposes own or have great influence over the Federal Reserve....

    July 8, 2016.....
    Trump Calls For Auditing the Fed

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    Who do you believe would tackle flaws in Fed policy?
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      President Donald Trump
      37 vote(s)
      60.7%

    2. President Hillary Clinton
      3 vote(s)
      4.9%

    3. President Bernie Sanders
      7 vote(s)
      11.5%

    4. other....
      14 vote(s)
      23.0%








     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think this is why I have so many political disputes in real life -

    so many people want a strong President who starts wars, while
    I want one who gets along with other countries,

    basically a lot of people want a Biden and I want a Trump.
     

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