What is wrong with American traditions

Europe is trying to prevent Nazis from ever getting enough political clout to take power and repeat their crimes.

Is the reason you fight so hard for "Nazi Rights" because they are the ultimate and most perfect expression of "White Nationalism"?

 

It happened. How would your wife feel if she was raped and you laughed at her story, because you weren't there, but the police have proof and records to prove it?

 

What’s your evidence that denying the holocaust leads to future holocausts? How do you defend removing people’s freedoms based on future events?

 

The Nazis have zero political clout in Europe because of their crimes. If they were allowed to deny their crimes and convince others to believe their denials, they could gain their political clout again.

 

People not things built this country. All laws shoukd God followed.

 

What’s your evidence for this hypothetical? Do you have something that shows how denying the holocaust leads to Nazis coming back into power?

How does a freedom loving libertarian like yourself put people in jail for what might happen in the future?

 

Because the deaths of nearly a hundred million people across Europe is a crime massive enough to want the Nazis to never come to power again. If a few racist Nazi-sympathizers end up in prison for denying reality to prevent them from ever having power again, that is worth the cost.

But you want them to be free to deny their crimes, get power again, and fulfill your "White Nationalist" dream of a world where Jews are just ashes coming out of smokestacks.

 

How much has religion declined in 50 years?

Divorces? Miserable couples used to stay married because of what they feared the neighbors might think. Declining birth rate? Talk to your polluters about that. Dysfunctional families? That's a symptom of poor economies and incomes and job insecurity.

Don't you see more and more and more that is wrong and seems to defy correction, -or more correctly, seems to get no effective resolution from politicians? Don't you see this country going downhill economically and culturally? NEWS FLASH: they're linked.

Oh yeah, I forgot. You look at all these things as an isolated individual and look at everyone else the same way, thinking they SHOULD BE thinking the same way, too.

What secluded castle do you live in that you don't see people working hard and taking personal responsibility? What I find is that real people in real world situations of work and play do work hard and take responsibility, but the partisan propaganda fills our head with the idea that those things don't exist. It's a lie, logi.

So you have a school of 65% Christians, 3% Jewish, 2% Muslim, 1% Buddhist, 1% Hindu, and 28% "unaffiliated".
What kind of prayer would you think proper? I would say "silent prayer" at times when the interested person has a moment to his/her self. IOW, leave it up to the person to provide for themselves. That way it's not unfair to anyone.

That would be nice. But beginning with Reagan or earlier, presidents ignored that idea and even ordered that immigration laws be not enforced. And it was for the benefit of the capitalists who benefitted from cheap labor. But I know you want to blame it on liberals. It feels good, eh?

Slave labor also built the country. Why abandon that now? Child labor built the country's industries around the turn of the century, Why abandon that?

Things change. Why do you resist it?

 

Is there a reason you can’t provide any evidence to back up your claims? The communists whose ideology you follow killed far more people than the Nazis yet denying their crimes isn’t against the law. People can freely deny the Holodomor in Europe.

Are there any other historical events that a freedom loving libertarian such as yourself supports having people thrown in jail for if they say they don’t believe in it? Or is this one example the only one that violates your alleged principles of non-aggression?

 

Nothing is wrong with American traditions. Family and country are great, though leave God up to freedom of religion. Nothing is wrong with hard work or personal responsibility. Nothing is wrong with personal prayer, just don't expect to subject others to it and don't expect government to subsidize it. And I'd prefer immigration laws that followed our actual American tradition going back to our Founders instead of the new, super-restrictive stuff we have now.

 

I don't follow communist ideology, so stop lying about me. I don't believe the Holodomor should be able to be denied either.

Where is the active movement to deny crimes committed by the Soviet Union?

 

Oh, you support the immigration requirement of having only white Christians of good moral character?

 

So to sum up your libertarian socialist positions, you support people having as much freedom as possible up until they violate the rights of others, except when denying certain historical facts since it may somehow lead to more Nazis and holocausts in the future (that you can’t prove)

And you haven’t proven the psychological harm that comes from denying the holocaust by the way. But if it was true, shouldn’t those laws be null and void once the last holocaust survivor was dead? Or does this traumatic experience get passed down genetically to future generations?

 

Those laws should continue until the last Nazi is dead.

 

That’s not consistent with your beliefs. If nobody is being harmed then why are you violating the rights of people?

 

Generally speaking (absent abuse) a bad marriage is still better than a good divorce.

 

We are talking about laws. There is no law for denying the rape of a rape victim.

 

Does claiming THOSE things as your own, make you superior? You didn't build that.

 

We can see from Questerrs responses that he doesn’t really support people’s civil rights. He would gladly remove the rights of people he opposed, namely whites, Christians, and people in the right. Most self identified libertarians are actually something else and it only takes a scratching of the surface to expose them.

 

I'm out. I am utterly confused and feel foolish.

 

Those moral conservative Christians built the greatest nation on earth in breakneck speed. Thats why so many want to come here. But liberals and other radicals have destroyed it and made it a violent dangerous hellhole like the ones many millions came to get away from .

 

Yet you insist on imposing yours on our innocent children in schools entertainment venues. Keep your sex life to yourself and and away from children.

 

You are forced to watch specific shows or send your kids to specific schools?

 

The question remain, when was the country greater and safer, say in the 50s or now with mass school shooting, and a dozen or so shot or kill in all the huge democrat run cities?

 

Weak.