what is you fav weapon?

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  1. APACHERAT

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    I know where you are coming from. We also have a gay dog in the neighborhood that's terrorizing all of the other straight dogs. :steamed:
     
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    Well, in any case, it's obvious some posters here should really consider changing their social sets and where they're hanging out, if they need to have a 'favorite weapon'. They closed down the biker hangout in Waco, so you've dodged that bullet(s).
     
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    Just when I was starting to think that this was such a well mannered thread...
    What if we were to move over to a culinary thread, in a discussion of favorite knives? Would you suggest that the participants change venue because they have to have a favorite knife?
    Conflict plays no favors. You can walk the same path every day of your life from home to work to store and pub, then back home. Every day of your life, it's the same path, except for the one time when conflict comes to visit. At that moment, everything changes. Your life will not be the same, and it could well be over, unless you have chosen well - which is your favorite weapon.
     
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    I'm sure many are familiar with the Military Channel's "The Top Ten."

    The Top Ten Bombers

    The Top Ten Fighters

    The Top Ten Tanks

    The Top Ten Warships ( FYI; It was Iowa class battleship. Fear factor off the scale)

    Top Ten Assault Rifles

    Top Ten Infantry Rifles

    Top Ten Submarines

    Top Ten Aircraft Carriers

    etc. etc etc.

    After they covered them all, they had to do the Top ten Weapons of all time In History. The winner, #1. The human body.
     
  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    My choice is my Air Jordan running shoes

    I wonder why nobody has brought up a bow. There's this guy I've seen who can loose 5 arrows per second with reasonable accuracy and making no more sound than a restrained cough
     
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    Granny's favorite weapon is a fryin' pan...
    :grandma:
    ... she gets out her 12ga. Mossburg...
    :omg:
    ... if any jihadis or other ne'er-do-wells come `round.
    :wink:
     
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    If you are less than 20 feet away, and you don't have your weapon drawn and aimed already, then your gun is useless. I could/would be on top of you before you could deploy it. If you are willing to do a Youtube search, you can find many videos that prove this.
     
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    I would let you, wouldn't even throw a punch. Just be getting my weapon out while you flail away.
    Not every one has never been in a fight.
     
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    Ex-wife. She could take anyone off at the knees with a sharp tongue.
     
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    I did. Looks like 2 hours before your post.

    I love my bow. My entire town is going to eat well when and if the capos lift the ban on pig hunting. The javelina are taking over the place. I wouldn't have to leave my front porch although, as a bowman, I want more sport than that. I hear there are bounties on feral pigs in Texas, Arkansas, etc.
     
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    Yes, me too, and I'm well trained enough to know not to pick a fight. But what I'm referring is are the videos that people put up to show how ineffective a handgun is within 20ft, if you don't already have it drawn and aimed.

    BTW, I don't "flail",, I either strike or grapple. Flailing is for the untrained, and might explain why you feel confident thinking someone like me would let you "get your weapon out". It's not like we don't train for just that. Unless you're trained too, you don't have a chance against a trained opponent, within 20ft. range that is. And, even if you are trained, then you ought to know that you still don't have time to pull your gun out. Sorry dude, no false bravado on my part. I'm just stating the facts as I've learned them in actual hand to hand. I've had the privilege of training with cops, retired military, etc. and this is what I've learned from those who know. Also, we actually do practice this in class, at 20ft, with full weight replicas. So far, nobody has pulled out their gun in time to be able to aim it, before they were in a hand to hand situation. Reality, it's a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) sometimes.
     
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    Chainsword:
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    Although power fist is a close second:
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    You cant control both hands of your opponent all the time.
    I carry along with a gun (though rarely a gun) a knife. Don't need to aim a knife.
    You may have had some privilege to train with LE, I did it. And it aint as easy as many like to think or say, and it aint like the movies.
    I don't care if you are John Wayne, Stallone and Chuck Norris all wrapped up in one bad dude.
    There is always someone badder, or on dope or having a psychotic episode that none of your training will prepare you for all the time.
    Even on duty I carried a knife.
    The mindset is to win, win at all cost and get home after a shift. Or in civie terms, get out of a situation alive. No matter what you have to do.
     
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    Swords like this are simply gamer's fantasy.

    Besides by the time someone was able to pull such a sword out I could easily throw a 9 inch throwing knife into their carotid artery.

    The NECK is where one throws a throwing knife at as the chest can be protected by body armor or even things in pockets and the skull....unless a person is as good as I am as I can throw a throwing knife into a person's eye socket or even open mouth....it's better to throw at the neck as whether I cut into the carotid arteries or throw a blade through an Adam's apple or perhaps below or above it I can sever the brain stem depending upon angle or I can cut through the backbone and nervous system.

    I can do this faster than I can pull my Sig and I can do this faster than any man is capable of turning his rifle barrel at me and firing.

    At any distance beyond 18 to 20 feet I am going to quick draw...or if I am holding my rifle I can use an M-4 and turn without aiming and hit center body mass at distances up to 75 feet.

    Beyond 75 feet it get's dicey so I would have to aim.

    I can draw my Sig and fire quickly from the hip and get a head shot at distances up to 50 to 60 feet.

    Beyond 60 feet...again it becomes dicey and I would have to aim.

    I can...EXTREMELY ACCURATELY...throw a Hatchet a distance of 50 to 60 feet.

    I can also draw a machete and with an underhand release very accurately hit center mass up to 25 feet.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    "Live by the sword, die by the sword" (Matt. 26:52)
     
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    Or use a ROBOTIC Barrett M82 .50 Caliber Sniper Rifle on a Quadrapod with a 99 Round Mag. with a CPS, Digital Video Zoom Camera/Scope and a Sensor Pack and fire the Barrett using a TABLET while you lay on a COUCH watching the Game!!!

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    Huh? What can the human body do against any of those top 10 things you listed, when every one of them were designed to annihilate human bodies en mass? Maybe Above Alpha can beat up an M-1 Abrams with a five finger death punch, or by throwing knives at it, but not the average guy.
     
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    If an Abrams Tank is looking for me....I RUN!!!

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    Just to add when a U.S. Abram's had track problems another Abram's Tank fired a SILVER BULLET Round at it as they were moving fast and did not want the Abram's to fall into enemy hands....the Silver Bullet tank round fired by another U.S. M1A1 Abram's bounced right off the disabled Abram's tank.

    Thus even an Abram's Tank cannot penetrate the composite armor of another Abram's tank!!

    Even in cases where an Abram's Tank's munitions storage area exploded the Abram's crew survived as the Abram's does not have an auto loader and U.S. Tank Crews have a sliding door that open's to allow them to grab a tank round and then the door closes and this storage area is built so well even when the tank round munitions detonate they burn up and out even while the crew is in the tank and the crew survives.

    All existing Russian Tanks including the T-72, T-80....which has all sorts of issues and is no longer in use and the T-90 are NOT capable of penetrating an Abram's Tank's armor.

    So the best thing to do if an Abram's in coming after you is hope to HELL you have an aircraft with an at MINIMUM 500 lbs bomb that you can call in to drop it on the Abram's or if you have the New U.S. Made Anti-Tank Missile or an A-10.

    If you don't you run and hide!!!

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    I never always agree with the "Military Channel" "Top Ten" series. The "Top Ten attack Close Air Support Aircraft" didn't even have the Douglas A-1 Skyraider , F-4U Corsair or the A-4 Skyhawk on the top ten list. :roflol: But the German Stuka made the list and technically the Stuka was never used for CAS but for battlefield air interdiction. The A-10 Warthog isn't the best CAS aircraft to ever fly, it's the Douglas A-1 Skyraider aka "Sandy."

    There were dozens of Air Force pilots who flew the A-1 over Vietnam providing CAS and would also find themselves later on in their careers in the cockpit of the A-10 Warthog and they all say that the A-1 was a better CAS weapons platform.

    Most of the Navy and Marine aviators who flew the A-1 during the 50's and 60's and found themselves in the late 60's and 70 flying the A-4 Skyhawk say that the A-1 was the best CAS aircraft and the A-4 Skyhawk was # 2 but considered the best jet powered CAS aircraft during the Vietnam War.

    There's also the problem with most people who confuse "Battlefield Air Interdiction" with "Close Air Support." Two different things.

    http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/warden/wrdchp07.htm

    http://www.ausairpower.net/air-land-battle.html

    http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a570047.pdf

    But I digress.

    What the question should be, Whats the most dangerous and feared weapon in the world ?

    Answer: A U.S. Marine and his rifle.

    One has to consider the fear factor.

    That's why the best warship in history is the Iowa class battleship. It's fear factor is off the scale, it was feared more by our enemies than the Nimitz class carriers or ICBM nuclear submarines.
     
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    A SANDY simply cannot handle surviving Shoulder Fired Anti-Aircraft Missiles of today that did not exist when Sandy's were flying CAS in Nam and Laos.

    An A-10 can take a hit and keep flying but a Sandy getting hit by something like a STINGER...forget it.

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    Sandy was able to take hits and keep flying.

    So why did the Marine Corps and the Navy dump the A-1 ?

    Because big (*)(*)(*)(*)ing internal combustion engines need gasoline, in the case with aircraft, high octane aviation gas aka avgas. The fumes are extremely explosive and lessons learned from WW ll, the majority of aircraft carriers that were lost was due to the explosions from the avgas fumes. The Navy wanted all navgas off their carriers and the Marines wanted all avgas off of their shore air bases. The Air Force would soon follow suit. JP fuel (kerosene) would become SOP for all American military aircraft.

    Side note: Probably the most survivable helicopters that saw action during the Vietnam War was the CH-34 (HUS, HSS , H-34, S-58, aka Hussie) The pilots sat above and were protected by a big Wright R-1820-84 radial engine. You can spend all day with high power rifle shooting at a large radial engine and they just keep running. Same is true with the radial engine on the Douglas A-1 Skyraider.
     
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    I can also pull up videos that disprove that theory.

    http://youtu.be/2fjMpn7JCJ0
     

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