What makes a mass shooter?

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  1. Richard The Last

    Richard The Last Well-Known Member

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    It's hard to calculate the exact number of times something has not happened.
     
  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    It uses the recoil to facilitate firing the next shot. That is automatic fire by definition. Very crude automatic fire but still automatic. Potatoe potahto question and moot anyway as just about anywhere is making it illegal and nobody is carrying it anymore anyhow.
     
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    Indeed. But its also often not that difficult to define BS when you ask it to affirm itself :wink:
     
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  4. Richard The Last

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    Question. You have an interesting perspective on issues in the US. Do you think it is possible that the US would have more terrorist attacks if everyone turned in their guns?
     
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    No I think that despite the mass of guns in the US they have played no part in counter terrorism whatsoever .

    Prove me wrong ?
     
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  6. Richard The Last

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    Again, it's hard to calculate the exact number of times something has not happened. Maybe the fact that we have more guns than people in this country has been a deterrent to terrorists.
     
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    Given you have been the victim of the biggest terrorist attack in history despite your guns that is an assertion hard to qualify
     
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    No your guns are there to kill each other .... and sadly you look forward to getting the opportunity to realise that Hollywood fantasy. Having lived in the US for over two years in the late 80s I know this to be true
     
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    Nothing about the above is correct.

    With a bump stock the trigger still needs to be pulled for every single shot. That is unarguable fact.
     
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    OK, I will concede the point. The rifle with a bump stock falls just short of automatic, but only just
     
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    I find this a silly topic... you don't need any device to bump fire, once you understand the technique; it works with virtually any semi auto and can be learned in a few minutes, about the same amount of time to learn how to use the BFstock.
     
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    Prove it?
     
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    Prove it?
     
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    Prove it?
     
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    What makes a mass murder is explained very well by Jordan Peterson in his 12 rules. From Rule Six "set your house in order before you criticize others" "As one of the members of the Columbine duo wrote: The human race isn’t worth fighting for, only worth killing. Give the Earth back to the animals. They deserve it infinitely more than we do. Nothing means anything anymore." Peterson writes, People who think such things view Being itself as inequitable and harsh to the point of corruption, and human Being, in particular, as contemptible. They appoint themselves supreme adjudicators of reality and find it wanting. They are the ultimate critics. The deeply cynical writer continues: "If you recall your history, the Nazis came up with a “final solution” to the Jewish problem…. Kill them all. Well, in case you haven’t figured it out, I say “KILL MANKIND.” No one should survive." Peterson then writes - "For such individuals, the world of experience is insufficient and evil— so to hell with everything!"
    Peterson, Jordan B.. 12 Rules for Life (pp. 181-182). Random House of Canada. Kindle Edition.
     
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    Yet again, trying to claim that lone wolf-type actors do not count as terrorists, as such undermines the message pertaining to private individuals legally armed successfully stopping terrorist attacks in the united states.

    Not all terrorists have international ties. That is a simple fact and cannot be ignored simply because it is inconvenient.

    There has been a growing trend on the part of supporters of greater firearm-related restrictions to label mass shooters as terrorists. As such their own methodology of approach will be utilized against them to undermine the validity of their own position whenever possible, forcing them to live by their own rules. If mass shooters are indeed terrorists, then whenever a mass shooter is stopped by an armed victim it will be counted as a terrorist attack successfully stopped in the united states.
     
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    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/5845

    26 U.S. Code § 5845 - Definitions
    (b) Machinegun
    The term “machinegun” means any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person.


    It does not meet the federally established definition. Therefore it is not. Therefore stop falsely claiming otherwise.
     
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    The New World Order, the Globalist, the UN and the EU..
     
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    We don't know. A mass shooting or terrorist attack that doesn't happen because someone intervened and prevented it doesn't make the news.
     
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    Fifty firearms and ammunition in carry on baggage in one year at one airport and for the most part zero media coverage.

    Out of that how many acts of terrorism where stopped, probably quite a few.

    https://www.tsa.gov/news/releases/2...ar-carry-baggage-seattle-tacoma-international
     
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    When it comes to issues of law, words mean things. For example, in the State of Florida, legally speaking, a firearm is NOT a weapon, because what IS a weapon is defined by an enumerated list. Some government owned facilities that are prohibited by State Law from banning firearms will instead put up a "No Weapons Allowed" sign and hope that most people will assume it applies to firearms. Legally, however, it doesn't.
     
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    Posting the same nonsense over and over again isn't contributing to the conversation.
     
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    It's actually trolling and should be reported.
     
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    Then by all means, let us dispense with the discussion and engage in such a course of action.
     

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