What the hell is the Greek People's Problem?

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  1. philxx

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    oh that would mean Greece,italy,Spain,Ireland and every other nation on the planet then!
     
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    This is the USA within 5 yrs if Congress doesnt get it's act together!
     
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    And the USA will collapse because of unfunded wars. Our entitlements have been paid for via taxes, but Congress has raided SS and Medicare to appease the Corporate Special Interests. Giving free money to banks and investment houses with no strings attached, Foreign aid in the billions year after year, unfar taxes via loop holes and credits, deductions, and subsidies, have bankrupted the usa.
     
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    Claiming corruption is being far too vague: name the corruption.

    Are you saying that if the massive and complex Greek Social Welfare system worked perfectly, they'd be hunky dory right now?

    What is obvious it that Greece has created such a Socialistic entitlement state that fraud, abuse and dysfunction are endemic to it naturally. That is what such systems always cause, and proof is every system of that size in the world, including the US.

    Despite these massive social spending programs and efforts, the percentage of elderly impoverished in Greece is 33% compared to the EU average of 20% - itself not good.

    This is just being apologetic for such systems, because Greece had already been attempting to do that, and failed. These systems fail of their own weight and stupidity, as they are everywhere.

    Morals? Lessons? Massive Social spending is wasteful and doesn't accomplish positive outcomes. More proof? 32% of all welfare recipients in the US live in California. Do you see a correlation?

    You should.

    Learn it now; stop supporting Government social spending. It's worse than useless, and will drag any economy down that engages in it.
     
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    Since Obama's addition to our deficit dwarfs the spending in both Iraq and Afghanistan, you'll have to refocus.
     
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    Because of the crisis the bankers caused and which he spent to cure. When scoundrels steal from you you want to give them power to do it again? Republicans support the incompetent theives who are now growing fat as a result of their incompetence. Vote republican and eat grass, clowns!
     
  8. philxx

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    Funny you should ask! the Revolutionary traditions of the Working Class must seem foreign to one who has never felt the lash of Fascism ,the for real variety ,and they rather smash the government and run thenselves ,then to allow it again!

    Oh dear watch out your very very right -wing politics is showing are you related to Rupert Murdoch BTW!
     
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    Grow up. The banking crisis was caused by Dem policy, and they're at it again, doing the same (*)(*)(*)(*)ed things that caused the housing crash the first time.

    Blame Government, as - without their forced policies - the banks would have stuck to their own underwriting practices, and the crash would never have happened the way that it did.
     
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    Hey they have had that for a while I hear or at least the idea of it ,a little before the "Greatest Nation on Earth "was even thought about!

    Cricky fair dinkum can general historical or Political culture fall lower in the middle Class,save yourself friend for there is no Virgil here!
     
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    It was caused by gamblers and thieves, as you know. They gave loans on no security to people who couldn't afford to pay back - which shows that they were totally incompetent even at their own thieving game. Who MADE these fools do it, tell me, and why do you want to give their chums political power? I think about half your Country seems to be on hard drugs all the time!
     
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    Now ,now no need to be rude,our friend has a illness a common infection of the brain called Nationalism is real syndrome.

    If left untreated it could turn into malignant right wing Capitialist Fascism.

    just like Ronald Reagan s or the Sarah palin teaparty strain!

    So lets be a little more Educational and friendly to our human friends in inhumane USA!
     
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    You're woefully short on the history of CRA's and GSE's. These changes were forced by law, by leftist social engineering types who ramped up fairly innocuous policy when originally instituted (as misguided as even it was, initially).
     
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    What are you blathering on about? Do you have no understanding of the role of people like Chris Dodd and Barney Frank in the housing crisis either?
     
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    It takes so long to start with the alphabet and counting beyond toes and fingers!
     
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    I wish our bankers could be forced to give me money on no security! Come ON!
     
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    Who ? are the idividuals important or something?When why??

    wHYAT THE 2 blokes bought down the entire Capitialist system ,i have heard of butterfly effect but that is stretching it!
     
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    I find it humourous that you choose to insult someone, but don't know jacksh!t about the actual circumstances of the US housing crisis.
     
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    OMG it is OUR FAULT.
     
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    The world financial institutions defrauded investors worldwide in the greatest ponzi scheme ever concocted and the world has not recovered. the principals never were brought to justice , they were bailed and little was done to create any oversight this would happen again.

    Greece is one of those countries caught in this economic tsunami. The world bank is dictating terms on loans that require draconian cuts to the people. The people no longer trust the banks or their elected. Why would not the peoples response to rising distrust and financial anarchy be rioting?

    talk to me when America cannot pay its debts. where American taxpayer bailed out all the financial culprits to the ponzy scheme and no one was prosecuted and guess what, we are in a recession. As if millions of homes, job losses, retirements ruined, businesses collapse and the bailout was supposed to save us. now our gutless politicians, the same toadies that bailed the culprits and held none accountable, got us into three wars are calling for huge cuts here in programs raided for years by politicians. Watch when taxes are levied on private 401Ks. I do not trust our elected, i do not trust a financial community that gamed the system and stole from investors worldwide and were bailed due to the same pimps who whore for them in government.

    What is wrong with greece. The people no longer trust their elected or the banking community.
     
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    The world financial institutions defrauded investors worldwide in the greatest ponzi scheme ever concocted and the world has not recovered. the principals never were brought to justice , they were bailed and little was done to create any oversight this would happen again.

    Greece is one of those countries caught in this economic tsunami. The world bank is dictating terms on loans that require draconian cuts to the people. The people no longer trust the banks or their elected. Why would not the peoples response to rising distrust and financial anarchy be rioting?

    talk to me when America cannot pay its debts. where American taxpayer bailed out all the financial culprits to the ponzy scheme and no one was prosecuted and guess what, we are in a recession. As if millions of homes, job losses, retirements ruined, businesses collapse and the bailout was supposed to save us. now our gutless politicians, the same toadies that bailed the culprits and held none accountable, got us into three wars are calling for huge cuts here in programs raided for years by politicians. Watch when taxes are levied on private 401Ks. I do not trust our elected, i do not trust a financial community that gamed the system and stole from investors worldwide and were bailed due to the same pimps who whore for them in government.

    What is wrong with greece. The people no longer trust their elected or the banking community.
     
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    The world financial institutions defrauded investors worldwide in the greatest ponzi scheme ever concocted and the world has not recovered. the principals never were brought to justice , they were bailed and little was done to create any oversight this would happen again.

    Greece is one of those countries caught in this economic tsunami. The world bank is dictating terms on loans that require draconian cuts to the people. The people no longer trust the banks or their elected. Why would not the peoples response to rising distrust and financial anarchy be rioting?

    talk to me when America cannot pay its debts. where American taxpayer bailed out all the financial culprits to the ponzy scheme and no one was prosecuted and guess what, we are in a recession. As if millions of homes, job losses, retirements ruined, businesses collapse and the bailout was supposed to save us. now our gutless politicians, the same toadies that bailed the culprits and held none accountable, got us into three wars are calling for huge cuts here in programs raided for years by politicians. Watch when taxes are levied on private 401Ks. I do not trust our elected, i do not trust a financial community that gamed the system and stole from investors worldwide and were bailed due to the same pimps who whore for them in government.

    What is wrong with greece. The people no longer trust their elected or the banking community.
     
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    Greece actually has quite a large military for its size, due to its traditional tensions with its bigger neighbor Turkey. A simple fact check on any of a number of reputable internet sites would have proved this: it's too bad Revere apparently doesn't know how to do this.
     
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    Answer to Thread!

    The problem with greece is that it still exists as with all fetters to Global Economy,AND that the Workers in [what was formerly known as greece]haven't TAKEN POLITICAL POWER YET AT LEAST SET UP WORKERS SOVIETS![circa 1905,and 1917 russia!]
     
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    And the loans (5.5%) the EU have unpleasantly deigned to grant are to be paid back by those workers, sweating their guts out for less pay for ten years or so to pay the bailed-out bankers to roll around in luxury. American capitalist logic!
     
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