What would a "rightist" be?

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  1. Daybreaker

    Daybreaker Well-Known Member

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    That's not political correctness, that's just the perception that has evolved ever since the democrats gave up the south in order to endorse the civil rights movement. That the democrats are secretly the party of some sort of welfare racism is a conspiracy theory that doesn't circulate much outside of right-wing echo chambers. Nobody else believes it, whether it's true or not.
     
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    A "leftist" is simply someone who follows left-wing ideals, and so a "rightist" would of course be the opposite. I think that should be pretty clear. Unless you're asking to specifically define what it means to be "left wing" or "right wing". I would say that a leftist is someone who ascribes to egalitarian principles, and is somewhat more collectively focused on the economic front. Whilst a Rightist would be someone who believes in the "natural order of things" and (i.e, Hierarchy) and maintaining "tradition." I am not sure that individualism would be a defining factor of that though, as there have been plenty of collectivist right-wing governments, fascism being the most prominent.
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    A rightist is one who votes republican regularly, one who subscribes to Fox noise for all their opinions. Rightist is someone who has no probleM with the wealthy padding their own portfolios via the expense of anybody and everybody. IE...a CEO.
     
  4. Unifier

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    I don't agree with any of your definitions. A leftist to me is someone who wants to forcibly impose the impossible notion of equal outcome on everyone. In addition, they want to eradicate tradition, redefine morality, and forcibly impose their definition of "politeness" on everyone and enforce it with an iron fist.

    A centrist to me is a perpetual fence-sitter. Someone who is wishy washy, indecisive, weak, apathetic, or too concerned with what people think to make a concrete decision and take a side.

    And a rightist would simply be someone who operates on common sense, utilizes will power and self-restraint, is independent, and can respect differences but also knows where to draw the line.
     
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    I will ask: Tradition is good? Morality according whom? And the difference is that in the leftist views no one will be imposed to live according one morality. Why the right and his traditionalist view, and that is just a sector of the right, the traditionalist or conservative, will try mantain, even if that is outdated or means impose on the rest of inhabitants of the place that they control.
     
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    The terms 'leftist' and 'rightist' are far too simplistic to be of any real value in assessing political ideology. the use of them is probably the biggest single problem in the political world. Both terms are used (usually by their opponents) to cover a number of distinct ideologies with their own beliefs and characteristics. Both liberals and socialists are often referred to as 'leftists', but their ideologies are not even vaguely similar in most repsects. Thae same is true of libertarians and conservatives, who are both often described as 'rightists'.

    The sooner both terms are laid to rest, the sooner people will begin to consider what people of different ideologies are actually saying, and the sooner the world will be able to have an honest debate about ideologies, policies and issues instead of sitting in the trenches, flinging mud, and resisting 'the other side' at all costs on the basis of half-truths, misunderstandings and downright lies about what they believe.
     
  7. kilgram

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    Well, right and leftist is correct. But is limited. I am leftist, but that is a vague term, because in both spectres you have thousand of different ideologies, that are going in the range of libertarian/authoritarian.

    And as I said in the other comment, normally people when talk about right think in the conservative, but in reality is the major group of the right. The same with the left, that the liberals(in USA) and socialiberals or socialdemocrats in Europe is the greatest sector of the today left. And for that vague definitions, but not so bad.
     
  8. Daybreaker

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    No, we just want to impose sufficient outcome on everyone. You guys worry so much about the richest people in the world, and you want so badly to make sure there's no limit to the amount of wealth that they can attain, that you never seem to worry about the poorest people living down the street.

    No, we just don't want you guys imposing your traditions, your morality and your politeness on everyone and enforcing it with an iron fist. You act like telling you that you can't make a law that makes gay marriage illegal is the same as telling you that you have to like gay marriage. Like that hurts you somehow. You can argue about our macroeconomic tyranny, but the "rightists" are the proud owners of social tyranny.
     

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