What would happen if China called in the debt?

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  1. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Taiwan would find itself the best armed island in the world...
     
  2. Taxcutter

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    "What do you think would happen if the US did something that pissed off China so much that they called in the debt in full and demanded payment."

    Taxcutter says:
    China's biggest market would be disrupted, exports would be deeply attenuated, and China would go into Depression.
     
  3. Daggdag

    Daggdag Well-Known Member

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    So your response to the fact that China has a bigger army and their soldiers are very well trained is. ¨We are Americans so our army automatically wins¨?
     
  4. Taxcutter

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    When your economy is export-driven you don't honk off your markets.

    That's why Germany is dithering over the euro. If the euro collapses, German marks will be so strong against drachmas, lira, pesos, francs, and pounds that the German stuff regardless of quality will simply be priced out of the market.

    Maybe its cheaper for them to carry the Greeks, Spanish, Italians, et al than it is to not be able to sell your stuff.
     
  5. highlander

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    As I said.....it would improve American education systems ... obvious proof is in the post!

    Shall I write in large letter of two syllables words?

    They are not guilty of any crime ..... according to the law and regardless or there religion or creed! Hey stupid!!!

    But you have it your own way, no point in farting against thunder!

    You miss the point,you've long missed the point of, freedom, honour or basic humanity, but don't worry I don't blame you... its the way some are brought up!

    Regards
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  6. highlander

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    With alldue respect,bollocks!

    Your country is a military dictatorship which is run by extremists.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-dol...d-japans-kamikaze-quantitative-easing/5335129

    Your time is nigh!

    Regards
    Highlander
     
  7. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    We wouldn't be foolish enough to attack China. They can't get that army here to fight us. We can't fight them in China. China isn't going to ask for it's money back. It's in bonds, which are long term.
     
  8. mikezila

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    since their economy is faultering too, they could use the money....but that's not the way bonds work! all they can do is sell them to some other sucker or wait. Obama could humor them and print the money to pay them, but that would just end up pissing them off.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Do you know how the Chinese treat their prisoners? Gitmo would be like a summer camp, not a prison to them. My point wasn't about how we should treat people in Gitmo, but how the Chinese would if they took it over if the inane OP came through.

    We have three Uigyars (Chinese Muslims from Western China, close to the 'stans) in Gitmo. They are primarily still there because if they were repatriated to China, the Chinese would execute them immediately. I can't see why they wouldn't do the same with the rest of the prisoners in Gitmo. They clearly have no love for Muslims. Personally, I think the prisoners in Gitmo need to be tried in military tribunals. If no conviction can be made, we need to repatriate them to the sovereign country where they were captured, and let the authorities there deal with them. If convicted, they face the punishment.

    Also, stop the highlander bit. I'm sure you're from Connecticut. That accent is fake :)
     
  10. Daggdag

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    Their economy is faltering because they are basing in on the US dollar, and US companies. Their people do not make enough from making cheap goods for lazy American bums that they can't [put any money into their own economy. If the people have no spending power, the economy suffers.
     
  11. mikezila

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    how? the feds don't have sole title over any piece of land, they rent it from the states just like the rest of us.
     
  12. Serfin' USA

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    They'd end up emptyhanded.

    They depend on our consumption just as much as we depend on their production. Granted, we're becoming less dependent on them since other poorer nations are filling in much of their role.
     
  13. mikezila

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    we are their only trading partner they have a surplus with and exports are falling in real terms. they claim a 14% gain every year, but some ports haven't seen a ship leave in over a month.
     
  14. perdidochas

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    The feds pay property taxes? That's a new one to me.
     
  15. mikezila

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    they give states "aid" to make up for lost taxes and pay for the land they occupy. if they sell it to a private party, the private party then has to pay property taxes.
     
  16. perdidochas

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    They don't have to give that aid. That's a choice.
     
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    states don't have to pay income taxes on the taxes they collect either.
     
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    "What would happen if China called in the debt?"

    China can not "call in the debt". Things don't work that way.
     
  19. Troianii

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    What would happen? Nothing, because the terms of buying our debt isn't "well, you make us a loan and whenever you want the $ back, we'll pay you on the spot."

    They're entitled to the interest on the debt, and the principle of the debt at the end of the term of the debt. Not whenever the f*** they want it.

    Really, do people think that debt owners can just say, "hey, we want the principle owed like now?" How'd that work for your mortgage.
     
  20. johnmayo

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    That is not how debt works. But if it was, we would just repay it all. In one day. It is called repudiation, and it involves printing money, but today they just type in some zeros in a computer. China, being as dumb as they are, will counteract by doing the same so they can continue pegging their currency to the dollar. Cost of oil will shoot up.
     
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    What would ahppen if China called in the Debt? We'd default and we and China would go bankrupt.
     
  22. The Real American Thinker

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    There are a lot of things, some of them very nasty things, that I would call China. "Dumb" is not one of them.
     
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    Have you seem how they squander their growth on ghost cities because they don't trust people to make diverse investments? Do you see how they peg the dollar letting us borrow money at below interest while we repay them with printed money and repudiate the debt they buy? If you think they are brilliant you sink your savings into us bonds. They are getting smarter but are still dumb. When they wake up one day and set their people loose they will eclipse the western world quickly. Europe and America.
     
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    Speak about being blind, America being bankrupt tried to default on repayments to China, China flew bankers and financial advisers to America to collect!

    America paid up!

    End of story!

    Regards
    Highlander
     
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    Simply do what all the countries in Europe and the rest of the world that we have given TRILLIONS of dollars. Just say thanks but we are not going to give you any money back. Have a nice day.
     

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