What's going on with the parole boards

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  1. DominorVobis

    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

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    Violent criminals with horrific records are being released nearly weekly only to recommit horrific crimes.
    This man has no rights IMHO Robert Farquharson
    What are they hiding? Nearly 100 previous convictions.http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-02/families-fight-to-have-reports-on-parole-murders-made-public/4861680
    We have an unacceptable re offending rate.
    12 people murdered in Victoria since 2008 by repeat offenders.
    national/high-reoffending-rates-cast-doubt-on-parole-system
    http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/guilty-plea-to-murder-on-parole-20130815-2rzk7.html
    The parole board is failing tokeep Australians safe. The parole board is indirectly responsible for the deaths of these people.
    My honest opinion ... they have been told to reduce the number of criminals incarcerated and length of sentences to save costs.

    Discuss ....... but please do not make it a partisan football, both major parties are equally responsible IMHO.
     
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    axialturban Well-Known Member

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    Too subjective and complex for me, but it would be good if something like this worked;

    [age] / (( number of convictions x current conviction term) + sum of previous terms) = P

    If P is blw 1.0 then they get no parole. Anything 1.0 and above is associated to a scale of parole treatment. EG;

    I know I might be mixing parole and life imprisonment a bit there, and sure it will never work... but the current system seems broken.
     
  3. aussiefree2ride

    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    I have to disagree with you on, "The parole board is indirectly responsible for the deaths of these people". The parole board is DIRECTLY responsible.
     
  4. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The rules that govern parole authorities would need serious review you would think. Pointing the finger is always the first response of nutters who can't cope with complexities!

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    The rules that govern parole authorities would need serious review you would think. Pointing the finger is always the first response of nutters who can't cope with complexities!
     
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    Adultmale Active Member Past Donor

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    I think your third conviction for an offence of violence should attract life in prison, never to be released. We cannot abide people at large in the community who have demonstrated they cannot be trusted not to use violence against others.
     
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    Apparently your a nutter
    Discuss...
     
  7. DominorVobis

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    Oh I am, I openly admit it. I am a nutter for law and order, safety of my children, grandchildren and anyone really. I am a nutter for a good, humanitarian country. I am a nutter for a "fair go" for everyone, I am a nutter for a cleaner, sustainable country.
     
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    Sadly that seems to be the truth of the matter. And it is not limited to one state either, so we can not even point to specific government policy as the root cause
     
  9. garry17

    garry17 Well-Known Member

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    but apparently you also can't cope with the complexities...
    :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

    Or was that a comment from the ignorant big that expect huge attacks on your post????
     
  10. garry17

    garry17 Well-Known Member

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    Anyway enough of that other crap...

    The problem is not with Parole boards so to speak. The problem is with social policy Australia puts to crimes.

    Australia feels that custodial sentences are for the rehabilitation of criminals. Some criminals cannot be rehabilitated and the fact that prison is not a place conducive to rehabilitation is not something that Australians want to address. Prison puts all prisoners into one or another group and with blanket programs that prisoners are put into with expectations of change in personality. If you consider you cannot change the personality of anybody, how does anybody expect that depriving people of liberties will change them.

    Due to the fact that people want to believe that in some respect that prison will either change the persons perception of a crime or will make the thought of prison as a deterrent to commit crime. As many would tell you that this grouping of prisoners will simply give other prisoner more advantage to learn how to get away with crime. Also by simply putting people into this style of living creates structures that people gains accustom to. Sure everybody wants to gain the freedoms of what is on the outside but coping with the outside can be difficult, especially when they have a culture that will continue to vilify their previous crime or crimes in total ignorance of what they were.

    Parole boards are only in the game of further providing opportunity to rehabilitate the prisoner and allow them to become involved in a community in a productive manner. People believe it is simply to give prisoners release for behaving well in detention. But the intention is to move people outside the prison system into a place they can be supervised with minimal interference to grow to community expectation. Many can point and say that one person should not be allowed or allowed to move to that level of rehabilitation but unless you are aware of the entire situation then it is totally irrelevant to the people’s wants or wishes.

    Social programs that all agree to have their problems and their detractors. As nobody has even examined the successes of the Parole board one must ask, “Is this a knee jerk reaction?” This is a highly volatile issue which if you take case by case issues to make your opinion you could find any amount of cases that would cross that failure mark. BUT due to the fact governments have not got the time or the power to act on case by case issues and create laws to address such, blanketing the issue will cause many cases to meet this criteria. Social policy is blanket policy from government, and when people complain of such points they should be aware that they are actually complaining about big government injecting itself into every part of their lives.

    Honestly this is the greatest evidence that the death sentence is predominant in Australian society. If a prisoner cannot be rehabilitated then what is the point of locking them up for the rest of their lives? Vengeance? No, if we look to were this problem comes from are those bleeding heart pretenders again. They want to believe they can cure all ills but when it comes to actually addressing the problems they complain it is somebody else’s fault for not getting the mix right.
     
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    Nah, it's because I am a "****" and don't have my ALP minders with me atm to help me make decisions
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep, as usual you get the childish bigotry that always attempts to wreck threads. Why can't they just discuss topics without the childish responses. It's such a shame.:steamed:
     
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    Coming from you, TV, that one`s a real gutbuster..
     
  14. garry17

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    I see that along with your cohort you would rather remain within the realm of stupidity and bigotry.

    Did you really want to discuss the topic or just complain that nothing is going your way?

    You wanted to focus on a point of trolling rather than discuss the point on your post. I know it was made to another but still does not stop you from commenting as you have in the past.

    It is funny to watch the shallow and bigoted inject there particular form into a conversation. BUT when one would want to perpetuate that bigotry rather than address the issues of their created conversation, it is just sad.
     

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