What's so great about Diversity?

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  1. Cybred

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    If someone else deliberately puts obstacles in your way that prevent you from doing something does that mean you are incapable of doing it?
     
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    Their are no policies or systems or obstacles that are currently and deliberately targeting black people.

    That's a myth
     
  3. Cybred

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    I'm sure you'd like to think so.
     
  4. ToughTalk

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    I'm sure I know so.

    Go for it. Show me a system or obstacle designed specifically to hold black people back right now in society
     
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    Affirmative action does that. When the newly minted college grad minority gets there first job at a company that cites "EOE" in their want ads, everyone including the college grad wonders if they are there because of merit, or because of thier skin.

    That's a crappy position to put a person into and akin to sewing a yellow star on a Jew's coat, except unlike the coat the minority can't take their skin off.
     
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    https://www.npr.org/2021/11/17/1049052531/racial-covenants-housing-discrimination
    "Although the Supreme Court ruled the covenants unenforceable in 1948 and although the passage of the 1968 Fair Housing Act outlawed them, the hurtful, offensive language still exists — an ugly reminder of the country's racist past."

    https://www.justice.gov/crt/fair-housing-act-1
    "Fair Housing Act
    The Fair Housing Act, 42 U.S.C. 3601 et seq., prohibits discrimination by direct providers of housing, such as landlords and real estate companies as well as other entities, such as municipalities, banks or other lending institutions and homeowners insurance companies whose discriminatory practices make housing unavailable to persons because of:
    Took ya awhile to dig up that one, but unfortunately...it has LONG since been negated both by the Supreme Court in 1948 and by the Fair Housing Act means it can't be enforced. It's just an ugly left over from America's past. So pretty please, with sugar on it...come back with an actual example of a SYSTEM or POLICY today that is specifically designed to hold black people back.
     
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    Diversity in and of itself is not a bad thing.
    What's evil is how the democrats/liberals distort the term.

    When they cite "diversity", what they really mean more of what they are in favor of.

    Diversity means variety. In non political terms an apple, a tomato, a steak, bread, cereal, etc. A diverse diet.

    To liberals:

    More blacks? More diverse.
    More women? More diverse.
    More hispanics? More diverse.
    More gays? More diverse.
    More whites? Less diverse.

    When liberals tout diversity they claim it's diversity of opinion.

    One black, one gay, one hispanic, one Asian, one disabled person, one person with AIDS, etc.

    Why? So we have diversity of opinion.

    How many conservatives?

    Huh? Why would we want them?

    Diversity of opinion.

    Only if they agree with us.

    That's liberal "diversity" for you.
     
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    I asked, "But can the results be quantified? How do you know if you are not diverse enough?"

    Are you sure? I been looking for a study that quantifies diversity and the benefits of more diversity. I have not found one. How about you Alwayssa?

    I think you were just tying to feed me a sxxx sandwich.
     
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    Well don't you understand? Conservatives are racist!

    I can't tell you how or show you examples but like come on! Everybody knows they are racist! So we don't want their racist opinions as diversity
     
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    You’re better off just saying you don’t like black people because all of this is wrong, especially the social services one in particular.
     
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    Good one.

    Sooo black people don't vote democratic at an unrealistic rate?
     
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    I think the purpose of "diversity" is to appease those who have found that you can get things just by complaining. It's a kind of coercion or blackmail; pay us and maybe we will stop calling you names and attacking you. On the functional side, it's about replacing ideas that work, like meritocracy, with things that sound good.

    You can see the degradation of that in a great many areas. It's intense in education, in politics, and even in the profit-orientated world of corporations. In the private sector, Anheuser-Busch is an example, and in that area the consequences are obvious, but in politics, it's not so- and the damage of incompetence for the sake of ideology takes a long time to trigger corrections, which violate the narrative of the liberals.

    I don't think there are any benefits to diversity. There's nothing wrong with having people of all kinds in various positions- but basing the qualification of meritocracy doesn't limit that in any way. When it becomes a requirement, it usually means lowering the bar to meet demands of pressure..... and sacrificing the performance is the price.
     
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    I assume that you mean impediments that hinder Blacks, right?

    Affirmative Action, I imagine, is a genuine impediment for young White men in today's job market .

    I'm interested in better informed opinions than mine.

    Thanks,
     
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    Like I said.
     
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    No they don't.
     
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    Why do Conservatives yell and scream against racial diversity?
     
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    Because the radical regressive leftists are shoving this "You are a racist" sandwich in people's mouths and asking us to chew, they have been doing ever since 2007. The democrats picked it up from the radical left right quick, because you know what kind of trend followers the democrats can be.
     
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    You're the one complaining that racial diversity is a bad thing. Do you want an all-white USA?
     
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    Like I said.

    I asked you to show me a system or policy that specifically negatively targets black people TODAY.

    Anf what you came back with wasn't it chief. For reason of which I posted.

    So could you please be so kind and explain to me what is currently holding black people back? Besides black culture.
     
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    Some of the safest countries in the world seem to be rather homogeneous.
     
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    So unless its at the level of jim crow is doesn't exist. Got it.
     
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    Some of the most dangerous countries in the world are also homogeneous. So what’s your point?
     
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    And there’s a reason for that, but it’s also the only thing you’re even somewhat correct on in that post, and being correct in anything doesn’t seem to be something you’re particularly good at.
     

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