When Democracy gets hijacked

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    It's a pretty obvious case in Ukraine.

    Zelenskyy ran on a program of peace, but was perfectly happy
    to allow a gigantic army to be formed in his country, obviously to
    threaten Russia, and for NATO missiles to be planned for installation
    in Ukraine, similar to the ones installed in Romania and Poland
    which happen to be pointed at Moscow. Although originally
    fitted with conventional explosives it is possible to fit them with
    nuclear missiles and Russia is not permitted to inspect them.

    And Zelenskyy has been very open about his desire to join NATO against
    clear repeated warnings from Russia.

    So how would a democracy cope with a leadership elected to do one
    thing, but then does the exact opposite of it's mandate?
     
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    The intent of the missiles is not to nuke Russia, obviously,
    but to threaten. The idea is to threaten the public into
    capitulation, allowing the Russian Federation to break up
    into 18 smaller republics which can be more easily controlled
    by US petroleum companies or other asset buying groups.

    It's to repeat the break up of the USSR again, digesting
    the largest remaining block.
     
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    A pretty obvious case in the US. Most of the population
    don't want another war but we keep getting one. Quit
    one war and there's another one right behind it.

    The war makers (defense (sic) contractors) have a lot
    of power in Washington and without wars of fear of war
    would make a lot less money.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The point of democracy was to allow the people
    control of the government.

    That purpose was subjugated in Ukraine when the
    President chosen by the people was bribed by another
    country to do the exact opposite.

    And that is the problem the US has when a majority of
    the public don't want to go to war, but 98% of Congress
    has been bribed by the 'defense industry' lobbyists to

    bring jobs to their district and make some money for
    themselves by voting for war.

    For example in the vote for the war in Afghanistan only
    one member of Congress voted against.

    Voting along party lines meant both parties voting for
    war.
     
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    This terrible war could be over within 24 hours. let's hope Putin does the right thing!
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seen in context, the war in Afghanistan ended 2021 Aug 30,
    and the weapons voted for by Congress had by then
    mostly been collected up for shipment to Ukraine, allowing
    the war to start in mid February 2022.
     
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    Putin is poster-child for hijacking democracy.
     

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