When in Rome, etc.

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  1. Flanders

    Flanders Well-Known Member

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    Let me open this thread with this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DzKfVQIO4xM

    Here’s a transcript of the nasty stuff:

    EPA Official's 'Philosophy' On Oil Companies: 'Crucify Them' - Just As Romans Crucified Conquered Citizens
    By Craig Bannister
    April 25, 2012

    http://cnsnews.com/blog/craig-banni...-companies-crucify-them-just-romans-crucified

    There is a serious danger in making Armendariz’s philosophy the only reason to shutdown the EPA. Many Americans, certainly liberals and misinformed rank & file environmental sign-carriers, think the EPA is doing a good thing whenever it attacks oil companies. You can be sure they all believe that oil company profits are responsible for high gasoline prices at the pump.

    The danger is that Americans will lose sight of the real threat the EPA poses; a threat that originates in the United Nations. Every EPA employee along with everybody who is paid tax dollars by the EPA is working for the United Nations. Many EPA employees might not know who they are working for; those who do know will deny it, but it is a fact just the same.

    Armendariz’s philosophy is important in understanding the UN’s agenda, but individual Americans will be better off if they focus on the things the EPA is doing to their property Rights. With property Rights in mind ask yourself this: If the Exxon Mobil corporation cannot defend itself against the EPA what chance do individual homeowners have when the EPA comes for them?

    Put my question in context by recalling the tax on income. The XVI Amendment was was going to punish the rich. How is that one working out for the wealthy and for private sector Americans?

    I’ll bet that most Americans do not know that in 2010 the EPA had 18,518 employees:


    http://www.epa.gov/oig/reports/2011/20110222-11-P-0136.pdf

    If you add in all the parasites feeding off the EPA on a contractual basis 18,518 more than doubles. I’ve heard that this year the actual number goes as high as 60,000. I don’t doubt it. If you think you are getting off light —— think again:

    EPA: Regulations would require 230,000 new employees, $21 billion
    By Matthew Boyle - The Daily Caller 11:57 AM 09/26/2011

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/26/e...30000-new-employees-21-billion/#ixzz1tFGqeZzI

    Incidentally, EPA bureaucrats carry guns thanks to Bill Clinton.

    The UN’s global warming scam has been exposed time and time, yet the EPA’s actions never stop trying to legitimate a known political fraud.

    The EPA is not needed.

    President Reagan along with countless others wanted to eliminate the Department of Education. Any time that is tried the parasites in the education industry trot out the children. Eliminating the EPA will be infinitely more difficult because of the tremendous political influence the United Nations exerts in this country. Few American realize that the EPA and the Department of Education join forces whenever either one is threatened with extinction or budget cuts.

    Finally, if any corporation or individual violates a so-called environmental law they should be arrested and get their day in court as the Constitution guarantees. The EPA should not have the authority to tax anyone.

    Back in 2010 EPA Administrator Lisa P. Jackson announced that she would tax industries to enforce the Clean Air Act. The question is: Where does a bureaucrat get the authority to tax anyone? Certainly not from the Constitution. No police chief in this country can go to a local business, or an individual, suspected of breaking a law and impose a tax. Yet Jackson is doing just that. No arrests for breaking the law, no day in court for the accused, just the EPA —— in the person of Lisa P. Jackson —— ordering a private business to pay a tax. I will not be surprised if some of those tax dollars find their way to the United Nations in a backdoor approach to giving the UN taxing authority over the American people.

    The only good thing about the EPA is that a constitutional amendment is not required to shut it down.
     
  2. Jiggs Casey

    Jiggs Casey New Member

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    fantabulous LAWL:

    "CNSnews... the RIGHT news, RIGHT now."

    About Us:

    CNSNews.com was launched on June 16, 1998 as a news source for individuals, news organizations and broadcasters who put a higher premium on balance than spin and seek news that’s ignored or under-reported as a result of media bias by omission.

    Study after study by the Media Research Center, the parent organization of CNSNews.com, clearly demonstrate a liberal bias in many news outlets – bias by commission and bias by omission – that results in a frequent double-standard in editorial decisions on what constitutes "news."

    Amusing unfalsifiable claim under the guise of scientific study.

    You gotta love when fringe con "news" sites assert to provide "balance" by 1) being, well, radically conservative in their news presentation, and 2) pretending the corporate media has some "liberal" bias, overall. I guess the "liberal media" wanted to help beat the war drums over WMD, right? Surely it's "liberal bias" that hides Ron Paul, the ONLY true Republican on the ticket, in poll after poll.

    What a bunch of crap. No wonder you cons are routing for the melting of the polar ice caps so you can "drill baby drill." You don't give a fig about the planet, never have.
     
  3. Taxcutter

    Taxcutter New Member

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    One presumes that Jiggs Casey prefers CNN, MSNBC, CBS News, and the New York Times, regardless of how many times they have been caught trying to manipulate the national discourse by either outright falsification or spiking stories.

    Sounds a lot like an ad hominem there Jiggs.

    Other threads discussed this subject and nobody denied what Mr. Armendariz said.
     
  4. Flanders

    Flanders Well-Known Member

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    Al Armendariz resigned. That does not mean his snout is out of the public trough. Mark my words, he’ll turn up with a tax dollar job somewhere down the line; probably in higher education.

    Even when one of their own is outed, environmental frauds get milage out of it. Lisa Jackson should have said service to the United Nations because Armendariz sure as hell was not serving America or the American people:


    EPA official resigns over ‘crucify’ remarks
    By Ben Geman - 04/30/12 12:39 PM ET

    http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/224515-epa-official-resigns-over-crucify-comments
     
  5. eathen lord

    eathen lord Active Member

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    that is an estimated 21 bill per year multiply that by 4... just a giant pain in the neck for us all the EPA is, not backed by hard science, only a tool for the control freaks in power. It would be so good to see it shut down, along with the department of ed but for different reasons.
     
  6. Jiggs Casey

    Jiggs Casey New Member

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    You should do better than "presume." I monitor ALL news sites. Not a select few. It's part of my job. That being said, I have very little regard for any of the CORPORATE-biased Madison Ave. outlets that you mention. I prefer the BBC and other Euro news agencies who don't dumb down their news presentation the way most Fox disciples prefer it spooned to them.

    Do better.

    Sometimes I have to speak in the only language your "burn everything" party can actually hear. It's a tactic your camp has perfected, so I figured I'd do the same.

    It's interesting that you drones will blather on and on about $21 billion in government expansion that attempts to check corruption, but conversely not pull a hair about trillions lost to unregulated banking fraud, environmental pollution and extended police actions abroad.

    Right, it's government that's the great "evil." Unless we need government to drop precision guided bombs into neighborhoods and secure oil drilling contracts. Then you're just being "Patriotic." :rolleyes:
     

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