When it comes to Covid the United States is fifty different countries

It seams the Repubs have a difficult time with reality.
Bunker Boy and his big mouth called it a war and enacted the war act thingy. By now the US, The Greates Country on Earth, Ever, should be able to supply the not only its own needs but the rest of the world.
Isn't it what Bunker Boy told us.
Simply said the US is not capable to do that.
Simply said, it does not fight that virus as a country, A Proud Nation, it does it like a banana republic, were each of the States has to take care for its self, compete against each other and their Federal Government for the equipment.
It shows how dysfunctional this country has become, divided, without the will to fight together and with no leadership.
End of an era.

 

You need to read through the thread and the role of FEMA in equitable distribution of covid supplies that Pants brought up.

By the way, "bunker boy"? What's Biden have to do with this?

 

When it comes to Covid the United States is fifty different countries


Sadly. We SHOULD have a national response...but we don't

 

I very much did.
But sadly the US showed it self to be a complete failure fighting this virus, because it did not have a leader ship..
The 50 states acting like individual countries, as you wrote, is desperation, because our President, Bunker Boy, failed us.
I am a war president, remember that ?
The war act thingy, Ford has to built respirators, big photo - op, I am the Man. We will sell them to Europe, because we will built so many.
Europe, really ?
The US can not even produce enough of PPE, the simple stuff, the real simple stuff, a face mask, to supply its own needs, despite the war act thingy.
Not to mentioning testing equipment.

Since we have done such a world class job, we are banned from traveling abroad, by all the other Nations.
Which is very MAGA

 

You should vote for tRUMP.

 

Will vote tRUMP.

 

Also most of those other countries count their cases differently. For example, we count a death with cvirus as a death from cvirus regardless of other contributing or more severe conditions. Many countries we're being conpared to only count deaths with cvirus as the most severe condition as a cvirus death. Just as one example.

 

You somehow fail to grasp the OP. The United States is fifty largely independent states that joined the union with the understanding they would retain autonomy from the federal government. Trump is not king and has no authority to force states to follow a federal covid policy and if he tried it would be unenforceable. We have fifty states with fifty governors making covid policy they deem appropriate for their particular state which when it comes to covid makes them fifty different countries.
Then there's the issue of should he if he could. America is a very diverse country and a one size fits all covid policy would be bad policy. Montana and Alaska for instance don't need the same policy as populace states such as California and New York. Governors of each state should do what the deem best for their state and Trump respects that uniquely American sytem.

 

Overall COVID-19 is in a downtrend in the USA. But you know how it goes ginning up the fear: yak, yak, yak on the TV as if the world is at its end and all still alive will die within weeks.

 

Thats why the media is now pushing the narrative that overall death rate has increased since covid began. Apparently they think they can keep reporting bigger numbers under that metric.

 

Ever notice how it's us old at risk people who don't cower in fear as the young liberals are scared to leave their house?

 

YOUR OWN WORDS contradicts Trump’s multiple comparisons with other countries;

YOUR OWN WORDS; “All these comparisons of the U.S. to countries like France, Spain, etc. are flawed”

Thus, according to your beliefs, Trump’s comparisons were also flawed.

 

Bunker Boy did not try at all, he even denied any responsibility. He pointed finger at those who took it seriously, encouraged anti lock down, anti mask demonstrators, he openly divided the country.
He opposed his CDC, spread fake news and rumors and CTs.
He did everything possible to make a unified approach impossible and became a total failure considering the production of PPE.
Banana Republic.

 

Narcissistic Personality Disorder; Worst personality to lead a country during bad economical/social times.

A few old sayings;

a. Leadership starts at the top.

b. In other to be a good leader, you must lead by example.

In addition, there are a few members in this forum who would unquestionably follow Trump to Jonestown, Guyana, and Josephwalker is one of them.

 

Once again Trump can only speak to the United States as a whole. He cant speak on fifty individual states. Thats up to governors.

 

Once again Trump can only speak to the United States as a whole. He cant sprak on fifty individual statrs

Ummmm, okay. LOL

 

So you say it was correct and not wrong to implement a travel ban on China and later on Europa ... but let in over 40,000 Americans back from there without testing them or putting them for 14 days into quarantaine?

Really a great job he did ... great how the get the virus massive into the USA and spread around, but not great to protect his Ameircan people of whom he is POTUS!

Trump supportewrs have really a nerve to ignore facts and things which hurt their idol and his lousy acting!

 

Wrong ... Germany and the US are very similar in this regard, if not the same. Federal law always triumphs for us, but not always for you and that is the only decisive difference. However, the fact is that Trump also harshly ignores state law if he can somehow ... or why were federal security forces in Portland against the will of the governor and mayor?

Ultimately, however, it is about responsibilities and they are clear and unambiguous.
In the last post before I made it clear to you that Trump pronounced a travel ban against China and Europe in February, which is his right and also his area of responsibility. That he allowed over 40,000 Americans to return is of course OK ... but that they come back de facto untested and without 14 days of quarantine, pass through customs and just go home, that is his responsibility, because he is the boss of customs and Border Control because fedaral agencies and services!
And strange that exactly in the weeks after that the virus suddenly spreads massively among you, eh?
But of course that's not Trump's fault ...
for it then comes from others in the forum the mental garbage and BS because of virus was developed in a Chinese laboratory and it's all a conspiracy by Soros, Bill Gates, the WHO, China, Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck and Snow White!

Trump and his fans are real world champions in finding scapegoats to cover up their own inability ... it is easier to point the finger at others and say "guilty" than to face the reality of your own mistakes!

 

I'm saying exactly what I said and you just proved. Trumps China travel ban was widely panned by the left including Biden as xenophobic and unnecessary and now they-you have the gall to say his travel ban wasn't strong enough.

 

What I put in bold above is the overwhelming difference between our two systems. In America states rights are paramount and our constitution purposely limits what the federal government can do which was something Obama despised and attempted to rectify. He called our constitution a"charter of negative rights" and claimed it effectively hamstrung the federal government.

 

Biden never mentioned the travel ban when he accused Trump of being Xenophobic

And let's remember...the "ban" on Chinese travel was more symbolic than anything. Tens of thousands entered this country from China without quarantine after it was issued and hundreds of thousands entered from Europe while the virus was raging in Italy and elsewhere on the Euro Continent. And even when a ban was put on the EU...it didn't include Britain...which had a horrendous amount of virus

Talk about poor leadership. That's textbook

 

Ehm ... sorry, but are you kidding?

How did and can the lefties as you call them influence it please? This is nonsense ... facts;

1.
Trump pronounces a travel ban against China and Europe over COVID-19 to protect the US. OK, is acceptable so far, even if the second class solution ... but OK

2.
Trump allows the return of all US citizens and those with a valid green card from China and Europe ... between 40,000 and 60,000 people, depending on the source.
That's OK too, because what should people stay abroad and why shouldn't they be allowed to go home to their families etc.

3.
Trump and his government claim that all returnees are carefully tested for the virus and that customs and customs border control are responsible for this, especially at the international airports of the United States. These are both federal agencies and ultimately under Trump and his orders.

The fact is, however, that upon entry, a screen was only made with a temperature measuring device on a random basis to determine whether someone had a fever or not. That was all of Trump's "careful testing" ... which can only be described as ridiculous. At best, you can only determine the people where the virus caused the disease to break out ... but not determine anyone who has only been infected so far!

RESULT: Thousands of infected Americans entered the USA without being screened if being infected!
And if you look at the development of the contagion in the USA, then we have proof that it was with this wave of untested returnees that the virus spread so massively in the USA within weeks.
If you don't have suitable or insufficient tests, or if the results take some time, then every disease rule says only one thing: Quatrantaine!
But that's exactly what didn't happen ... because almost none of the thousands of returnees had to be quarantined for 14 days to be sure that the person is not infected!

And who is responsible for this incompetence? Trump and nobody else!

 

OK ...
but who is solely responsible and responsible for border surveillance etc. in the USA?
The federal government with the CBC and customs service etc. and these are pure federal agencies ... so there is no single state involved.
And if you pronounce a travel ban like Trump, then that is also a federal order and the enforcement of the order is then a purely federal matter!

And as far as the legal situation of the individual state and federal government is concerned, I am well aware of how sensitive the whole thing is in the USA. Personally, I think more like Obama here, even if I'm not a fan of Obama. Many things affect the whole USA and do not stop at the borders of the 50 states and the good of the whole is always above the good of the individual ... regardless of whether person and group or state and entire country = federal government.

 

And once again the same people that called Trump xenophobic and said he was overreacting now say he didn’t do enough. Rinse and repeat.

 

Who told he was over reacting please?

Fact Check...

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/video-misconstrues-pelosi-tweet-on-un-american-travel-ban/