When the Islamic State Saved 150,000 Jews

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  1. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    Mmmkayy , whatever you say ron
     
  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you don't even know me!!

    why the (*)(*)(*)(*) would you question my Jewishness??
     
  3. Esau

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    Why does it bother you so much what I know?
     
  4. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    Ppl call themselves all kinds of crazy stuff nowadays, creationist, evangelical, terrorist, Jewish, jehova witness the denominations are endless and they are all frauds

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    They're all in it for the paper, selfish reasons
     
  5. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you have no evidence that I am NOT a Jew.

    My mother is a Jew. I am of the Tribe of Levi. I had a Bar-Mitzvah. I can read Hebrew.

    I am a Jew, now drop it!!!
     
  6. Esau

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    I don't care what you call yourself, you are a Human being, save the drama for someone who doesn't know any better ok
     
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    There is only one true religion
     
  8. Goomba

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    Religion is simply a way of life that forms the basis of how views the world- and lives accordingly. Islam for Muslims societies, and Liberal Democracies for the West. There really are no differences save for the presence of the supernatural.

    Christians and Jews have nothing to do with their respective religions. The Enlightenment led to the West ejecting itself from religion.

    Enlighten me on the last 10 years of the Prophet's life.

    I never said things were perfect. My argument was that Islam was far more tolerant than the Christian West when it came to followers of a different belief system.
     
  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Interesting. Are you then saying that the real conflict between the "West" and "Islam" is really a matter of one accepting the Enlightenment?
     
  10. Goomba

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    No, because Islam did not need an Enlightenment. Islam itself was the enlightenment that transformed the Arabs from inconsequential tribes in the desert to the intellectual and military rulers of the world.

    Science had to conform to Islam. That was not the case in the Christian West, where Christianity trumped science. Westerners always readily
    assume that the history of religion in the West is the same as Islam.

    The conflict between the West and Islam is between is rather one between God and Godlessness.
     
  11. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Islam allows slavery and discrimination against women, which means there is no God in Islam. Islam is simply a misogynist fantasy.
     
  12. Goomba

    Goomba Well-Known Member

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    That's real nice, Ron.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    its a fact.
     
  14. Goomba

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    Until you remove your preconceived notions of how humanity should function, there is no point in discussing these things would you.

    Take the red pill, Ron. :)
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sorry bro, this isn't a silly sci-fi movie.

    i know all there is to know about Islam, that I need to know.
     
  16. Ronstar

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    its not your place to say who is and is not, a Jew.
     
  17. Goomba

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    Lol, all you know is slavery and verse 9:5. You know nothing.
     
  18. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    oh, I know more about Islam than you. I actually own a Koran, and have read it.

    pretty sick stuff. If Muhammed was alive today, he'd be in a mental institution or prison
     
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    Again, Lol. Have you read the tafsirs? Have you read the seerahs? Do you know what Iman means? Do you know what Taqwa is?

    Do you know how many years the Muslims were persecuted and tortured by the Meccan pagans? Do you know what the 99 names of God are?

    Of course you don't. Run along now.
     
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    Unlike you, I have read the Koran. That's all that matters. Its supposedly Gods word.

    but it cannot be Gods word, as it is full of evil and hate.
     
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    I haven't read the Qur'an? Are you for real?

    Let's see ONE verse that proves your assertions.
     
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    veese?
     
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    Verse.
     
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    The Chambers 48:29

    Muhammed is Gods apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merficul to one another.
     
  25. Goomba

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    1. Bad translation. Forceful or strong is supposed to be in place of "ruthless." No accepted translation has the word "ruthless, " so you probably got the verse from an anti-Islam site.

    2. The verse refers tho those disbelievers who wronged and persecuted the Muslims.

    3. There are no cases whatsoever in the Hadiths or Qur'an telling the Muslims not to treat non-Muslims with equity. For example:

    See more here:

    http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/uran_4829_and_554_commentary
     

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