When WAS America great?

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I have noted that I accept your opinion for what it's worth. I don't share your low regard for so many well-educated Americans in the best-educated states.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not my opinion sir. It's your Own Party's opinion which I showed you.

    Today, new video surfaced in which Gruber said that “the stupidity of the American voter” made it important for him and Democrats to hide ...

    https://www.forbes.com › Business › Policy
     
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    No, Biden is not responsible for the increase in illegal wannabes, but he is responsible for not doing enough about them crashing our border.

    If we don't do a lot more than we're doing now, the problem could get far worse.
     
  4. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I cite the estimation of the American electorate regarding President Obama and their estimation of Trump.

    If you differ, you differ.
     
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    Yes, the Biden administration is responsible. It’s one of their few constitutional duties.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    The President should explain how he disappeared Trump's wall that he told his worshipers he had built. What did Biden do with it?

     
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    I don't think they are stupid. I think many people don't have the common sense to go along with their education. It would seem most have one or the other, but not both. I don't consider myself very smart at all. But I think I have a lot of common sense. I also try and look at both sides, not just one. I try and look between the lines to see why they did or said what they did. Not just take for what I saw or heard from them
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He did do a pretty good job on the wall considering Pellosi said not one penny to build the wall. But he was only able to get this much up. The border is thousands of miles long and would have cost around 20-25 billion to do it all.

    · Before Biden stopped new construction on the wall, the Trump administration had built 458 miles
     
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    Yeah but not in droves. When I see footage from LA or San Francisco streets, it's a facepalm.

    The point was, a husband could support a wife and several kids on salary. Not today, unless you are a rap star.

    Bollocks. Hollywood sucks today.

    OK, kinda is. But it's also a matter of taste. And tastes are indicative.

    I was writing about smooth jazz specifically. ;)

    Yeah, along with three other sexes. :roll:

    That's good but it's not the America we used to know and used to admire, any more.

    MAGA :)
     
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    When anyone notes a fault of the 'perfect one' his gremlins immediately point to someone else's faults.
     
  11. Natty Bumpo

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    "One of the largest infrastructure projects we've ever had in this country!"
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    How was the appropriation hidden, let alone the wall?​
     
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    No not an opinion illegal immigration is a criminal act that is absolute fact.
     
  13. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, you and I both know he blows a lot of stuff out of proportion. I never took his remark seriously. He said he is smarter than most people. Said he, smarter than the Generals. Said he had the biggest swearing in crowed than anyone. I blow off much of what he says because I know he loves to brag on his self. The only thing he loves better then himself is America.

    But I also know the bias news and Democrats love to take a lot of stuff he says out of contact. They said in Virginia when taking down Gen Lee's statue that he said there were some good White Supremacist.. He never said that. He said there were good and bad on both sides. Meaning there were local and pro Lee supporters there condemning it's removal and there were people in the crowd that were harassing the protesters and throwing things at them.

    He asked a doctor if bleach could be injected into people to kill the virus when they said bleach could. It was a question, not a statement and he should have asked the doctor off to the side, not in front of people. But the lying news said Trump could inject bleach and kill the virus. That lie killed a man who ingested it.

    There were several others. But you get my point.
     
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    Who is the perfect one? I’m not aware of any such creature.
     
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    We did but I bet it was pretty wonderful here in California prior to 1848. At least as long as you were Spanish...
     
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    Curious...when he said good and bad on both sides in regards to white supremacists, doesn't that mean there were good white supremacists? You said he asked the doctor during a press conference if bleach injections kill the virus but the mere fact that he asked implied that he thought it might or could which means he believed it was possible. I am sorry but a person in his position must be more careful what they say and to where they say it because there will always be people who take their word literally. Given how Trump has been talking publicly in the last few years, who knows what he really means, I don't even think he knows anymore.
     
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    Congress needs to take action.
    The Senate, with Biden approval, passed a bipartisan package.

    trump and House R's shot it down.
    That's why nothing gets done. Congress is f'd up
     
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    Kinda like Tucker Carlson, Fox lies, Newsmaxx, OAN do?

    Yet, you tried to get me to believe a Tucker lie.
    And didn't follow it up with credible facts. Which I would like to see.

    You're blaming one side of media with something that the other side does as well.
    And you push that other side as proof.

    It goes both ways.
    Believe 1/2 of what one sees, and NONE of what one hears/reads.
     
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    Droves? Where'd you get the idea that droves are homeless? How many is droves? Cities in USA and I bet many across the world have homeless.

    Women don't want to stay home today. And I bet that is true in your country as well. How many single earners does your country have? Yes, as I said, inflation has outpaced wages.

    Hollywood, makes the same type of movies today as they did in yesteryear. Times change and so do movies. To reflect the times.
    I already said that.

    Hermaphrodites and trans people have existed since near the dawn of humans.

    Nothing is the same today as yesteryear.

    Change is the only constant in life. Everyone likes to think their youth times are the best times. And they are, for those people.
     
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    My concern is the two factions of the bipartisan package are the two factions responsible for the problem in the first place. I’m unconvinced after 40 years one or both parties are now magically serious about solving the problem.

    I’ve detailed the plan of doubling down on what isn’t working and hasn’t worked. I’m not sanguine about real change occurring by two parties agreeing to do what hasn’t worked in the past.

    But it’s not my circus, not my monkeys. :)
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believed you were talking about him lying about the the computers being compromised on the air like some of Trump's close advisors did. Not that they read his private E-mails. That was why he was fired. They got his E-mails and saw he didn't believe it and was warning others at Fox and they used that warning against Fox. I'm sorry if I didn't get more info from you to know just what your were talking about. You only had a one word answer. The computer companies name.
     
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    It's astounding that there are folks who worship the sexual abuser/loser who craps on democracy, law and order, and our justice system, and blatantly lies to them or is seriously delusional, but all one can do is respect the truth.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't worship him. I didn't even vote for him. I just want all the truth to come out. It seems like many don't. Click on picture to enlarge
     

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    I can't believe you can't work that out for yourself or realize it was total sarcasm.

    Actually I can.

    have a nice day
     
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    I assumed it’s sarcasm. But your comment has nothing to do with my posting history. As such, sarcasm or otherwise, your response to me is pure fallacy on multiple levels.

    You add ad hominem fallacy to boot.

    Classy. If you ever wish to have a dialogue not based on fallacy on your part, feel free to post an intellectual argument or something based on evidence that relates to my posts.

    Bet dollars to donuts you don’t even know my position on US politics.

    SMH.
     
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