When will religion be overteken by logic?

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  1. DennisTate

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    After the sixteen minute mark in this video is an intriguing statement......
    this guy is a Christian psychic.... and he ended up teaching a class of
    leaders in Nigeria.... and he was given the message..... "I AM government..... .politics are dangerous!!

    That does make sense..... because adversarial politics destroys!


    Chuck Pierce - From the Prophetic Summit -(Part 1) 2-1-2019
     
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    "Myth" as in false?
     
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    maybe, maybe not, do you think the Christian myth is false?

    all myths may have started from some truth
     
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    Why?
     
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    Why in the hell would I believe it if I thought that it was false?
     
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    I already said, cause I had an out of body experience when younger

     
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    you believe all the Christian myths, even the ones not included in the bible or just the ones people picked out for you and put into one book?

    why did the creators of the bible not include all the myths, did they not believe some? I guess the creators of the bible were kinda like me... they did not believe all the Christian myths

    you would not if you thought it was false, just as I said I do not believe the myths I think are false - the Buddhist religion allows us to find our own truth, we don't have to believe word for word what Buddhist before us believed to be true
     
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    I believe that only what is in the Bible is true. Everything outside of it can either be true or false.

    We (Evangelical Protestants) believe that the creator of the Bible is God, speaking through people. What is in the Bible is what God wants in the Bible.
     
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    there we go, so your like me with some of the myths, so now you understand

    we do not have an official Buddhist bible, so no one picked and choosed for us like with the bible, we have to do that on our own
     
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    Well the only difference being that everything that I believe has something in common - they're recorded in the Bible. Do your beliefs have anything in common?
     
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    you just depend on someone else picking the stories to believe, I have to do that myself - yours were like mine once

    the Mormon's myth says theirs came from secret seer stones God provided, we all have our beliefs and others may believe differently
     
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    We don't believe that they were 'picked out' by people.
     
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    but they were, but I accept you believe God made them do it

    the point is, the Christian religion did not always have a bible, someone before you picked the stories to put in there... left others out... yes your free to believe they had a God's help in doing so, just like Catholics believe God picks the Pope
     
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    Absolutely.

    Cells today even seem to be an amalgam of what might have been more than one starts at life - with cells containing mitochondria, with both cells and mitochondria having variations on the dna theme.

    I'm sure It's a really interesting field of study.
     
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    You have blinded yourself to the effects of atheism, whose atrocities have murdered 148,000,000 in just two centuries.

    From Illogical Atheism, by Bo Jinn (Kindle)

    Perhaps the most egregious tissue of lies has been woven around the events of WWII and the role of Christianity in the rise of fascism, when it is historically clear as day that the Nazi plan always included the suppression and eventual eradication of religion. - 4392

    … the single most distinctive driving force which led to the guillotining, bludgeoning and imprisonment and torture of the tens of thousands of French peasants was, “reason replacing religion.” – 4446

    … the infamous Herbert-Cloots atheist faction- the “Cult of Reason” remained the primary state religious authority long enough to sanction the genocides of about one hundred seventy thousand peasants and clerics in the Vendee. – 4461

    How sad it is that the blood of so many tens of millions which stains our most recent trails through history (of atheism) is so willingly overlooked for ages long past, all in the name of scrutiny for the “horrible poison of religion.”- 4556

    “Apparently it was just an amazing coincidence that every Communist of historic note publicly declared his atheism … The total body count is approximately 148 million dead at the bloody hands of fifty-two atheists, three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war, and individual crime in the entire twentieth century combined. (182,716 times worse than the Spanish Inquisition) ” – Theodore Beale - 4578

    Atheism was not only institutionalized in the USSR, it was brutally prescribed in a manner heinous enough to shame the Taliban. This happens to have been the case all across the Eastern sphere of influence, by the way. - 4599

    Of 40,000 to 60,000 monks, only 800 to 1000 survived the Cambodian Killing Fields. - 4611

    The only way to get rid of Christianity is to let it die out little by little. I especially wouldn’t want our movement to acquire a religious character and institute a form of worship. It would be appalling to me. – Adolf Hitler - 4641

    Once the war was over, Hitler promised himself he would root out and destroy the Christian churches. Benito Mussolini was a staunchly affirmed atheist and anti-cleric. - 4706

    “the gas chambers of Auschwitz, Treblinka, and Maidanek were ultimately prepared…at the desks and in the lecture halls of nihilistic scientists and philosophers.” – Victor Frankl, psychiatrist and Holocaust Survivor - 4751
     
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    When Hell freezes over.
     
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    In 2002, the US Department of education issued a statement that the number of victims of sexual predation in public schools is at least 100 times greater than the number of victims of Catholic priests. Few people have any clue of this national catastrophe, as it continues on. Recent news reported a music teacher who ejaculated his semen onto flutes of his students, for his own sick personal gratification.
     
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    Well, this thread is about religion being taken over by reason, so this is off-topic. If you want to start a thread about atheism, go right ahead.
     
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    God speaking thru people. Isn't that what every religious leader claims? A direct line to the almighty? They can't all be telling the truth can they? So how do you determine if these pious people are truth telling or exploiting other's faith?
     
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    atheism is a nontheist religion
     
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    What do you mean "exploiting other's faith?"
     
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    Hitler was born and raise Christian, supported Christianity and the Church sadly supported him in the beginning
     
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    it can be, many Atheists are Buddhists for example, though some Buddhists are Theists as well
    Atheistism just means you do not believe in a God, it's no more a religion then Theistism is a religion in itself
     
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    Which is a belief which people have faith in. Otherwise known as a religion.
     
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