When you know the guy you voted for is guilty of a crime...

I keep wondering how far you expect to go by blindly repeating conspiracy theories you read on Facebook and wingnut blogs without even the slightest attempt at researching them on your own.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-stole-white-house-furniture/

I still find it amazing how right-wingers are still caught on "proving" how Hillary might have inadvertently done something that is against what is written in a law while, at the same time, they DEMAND proof of intent when Trump deliberately commits crimes even AFTER his own attorneys tell him that he could be prosecuted.

Kinda hints to very strong political partisanship, and no interest in the rule of law, doesn't it?

BTW, I think Hillary broke the law. And she is also guilty of doing dumb things (including taking stuff that she thought was hers, but were actually for the WH collection). However, I also believe the FBI, three different AGs, IGs, and Republican Congressional committees that investigated her when they concluded that there was no bias or criminal intent. And I think that should not be an excuse for government elected officials, and that they should be punished... at a minimum... with not being allowed to run for office ever again. I would have supported 100% an HRC impeachment, and of anybody else involved, even after she left office. Even today... But what I believe seems to be pretty much irrelevant to both partisan people and to the legal system. So that's that!

I would be surprised if there were any Trump loyalists in this group who could say the same about Trump.

 

Then you require further education. I'm talking about corruption. Not disagreement. Giuliani and the kraken lady advised Trump to try to overthrow the election while failing to provide any evidence. Hell, Giuliani went to court to try to get the votes of an entire ****ing state completely erased. He also later admitted that he hadn't even reviewed or researched the claims he was pushing. Yeah, that's corrupt as ****. At least for those of us who care about the law and the Constitution. I'm sorry that you "differ" with me in that respect.

 

Ignore facts all you want. But the emails were destroyed, in what her IT specialist described as an "Ah ****" moment, AFTER the subpoena.

 

If the source is the one I'm thinking of, the specialist discovered those emails, having thought they were destroyed (later finding out that they weren't), and then alerted the FBI and turned them over.

 

What planet did you say you live on???

 

Part correct. Keep trying.

 

Conservatives didn't filibuster attempts to address gerrymandering? Ur gonna pretend that BS huh?

 

Everything you said is the furthest thing from the truth as you could possibly get

"Donald: "Well, I was going to say sex, but I can't relate that to her."
Only in a liberal mind would that be meaning... I want to have sex with my daughter.... you are one strange cookie to think that....
This never happened so there is no proving thing that did not happen.

Link please of Trump publically saying Taliban would fall...

What exactly do you want evidence and facts on....
are you sticking with showering with his daughter
or how the release of terrorist from the Bagram airbase got 13 Americans and 170 people know killed.. and don,t forget the children

 

"Deflection"? Deflection from what? You understand that this thread is ABOUT Trump. You might want to try your Projection again in a thread where the defense mechanism is not this obvious...

 

It is being shown that there was a legitimate plot to place fraudulent electors to fast fraudulent votes to re-elect an individual that was not elected by the people.

Do you feel this is acceptable or should every person involved be tried with the maximum applicable punishment?

 

Political corruption in general.

 

""An attack perpetrated by the people that Trump released . . . and Trump PUBLICLY ADMITTED that he knew Afghanistan would fall to the Taliban after his surrender plan was complete."" Your reference in a whataboutism is laughable... you can't even get the screwup the Afghanistan withdraw was..
BUT....
I WILL NOT LET YOU FORGET... Abandoning the Bagram airbase and the prisons in it allowed the release of 1500 terrorist into the world... Yes Trump did also, but the big difference you can pound sand on is... One of those Biden released took a 60 mile trek North, strapped on a suicide vest and killed 13 Americans and 170 civilians... The blood of all those people are on Joe Biden's hands.

I WILL NOT LET YOU FORGET... for revenge Biden, in his continuing phuster cluck of a withdraw, drone bombed an innocent civilian and his six kids. The blood of all those people are on Joe Biden's hands.

I WILL NOT LET YOU FORGET. """"The withdrawal "destroyed" the morale of the Afghan military.""""" No.. literally walking out in the middle of the night after turning out the lights at the airbase and not notifying "Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction, or SIGAR" was the cause of that...

I WILL NOT LET YOU FORGET.... the Biden administration handed over a "hit list" to our enemies of all remaining American and allies still in country...

May I please add that "thousands" of ISIS-K terrorists had been released from the Parwan prison at the Bagram Air Base when President Joe Biden's administration abandoned it ... the ISIS suicide bomber who killed 13 US troops and around 170 people was released days earlier from Bagram prison abandoned by Biden admin ....

https://www.businessinsider.com/sui...released-from-afghanistan-prison-2021-10?op=1
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/06/politics/kabul-airport-attacker-prison/index.html

Trump wasn't there when President Biden got people killed.


Biden released 5500 terrorists when he deserted the 2 prisons on the Bagram airbase...

Biden aided and abetted our enemies when he supplied the Taliban with our most sophisticated weapons making the US the number one state sponsor of terror.

Leaving 2500 troops was Joe's decision... he had 7 months to make it 13,000 but did not.

Americans and allies are still trapped in Afghanistan and our own government is not getting them out... private American citizens are... what a disgrace the withdraw was
operation Pineapple Express
https://www.foxnews.com/media/scott-mann-patriot-awards-winner-fox-nation-afghanistan-rescue-mission
project dynamo
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/1...ehind-in-afghanistan-hundreds-remain-1177728/

I laugh in your face if you even dare blame the Afghanistan phuster cluck on Trump in any way.

 

We are currently under the authority of the administration that the people voted in because of their emotions and look where that's got us.

Trump will be and has been investigated multiple times and they always seem to end up much a do about nothing

Having said that I urge you to stop voting with your emotions.

 

So you admit you wanted to deflect from Trump's corruption (which is the topic of this thread) to other corruption (which is not). So when you accuse me of "deflecting" when it's YOU who is doing that, that's called "projection". And it's a clear sign that you are desperate to defend "the idol" but have no arguments whith which to do so.

Now that you know what "projection" means, will you please try to avoid it? I bet you'll just use this knew knowledge to falsely accuse others of doing it. Please prove me wrong...

 

Show us the email's and communications from the Trump family and the Chinese.. Heck after 5 years of Russia, Russia, Russia you should have tons of Russia/Trump emails...

Would you like to see the Biden crime family connection to China?

Here is just one example.... when Joe and a Chinese with close ties to the CCP... share an office... Joe Biden and his new office mates... Gongwen Dong



And who is Gongwen Dong
from the Senate report ...
https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Ukraine Report_FINAL.pdf

 

Its not 'a deflection' to call out the rampant corruption of the entire political system in a thread titled "When you know the guy you voted for is guilty of a crime..." I'm just being more inclusive than you seem to appreciate.

 

There is only one crime boss, and that is Joe Biden...
The only thing you keep getting stuck on is Trump's life has been turned upside down with endless investigations and nothing criminal has been found.
Biden's criminal background has never been investigated... endless documentation have been shown that at least would warrant an investigation.. but those responsible do not investigate.... Why?

 

trump does excel in making his crimes everyone else’s issues — you can see this in the number of people in his cabinet, campaign and administration that have been charged, arrested or resigned and then publicly spoke against him.

Anyone that has that many criminals around them, is a criminal

You didn’t answer the question.

Would you like to try again?

 

You voted for Joe Biden. Pretty much dumps any credibility you might have had on this issue.... And now, Joe is actively playing defense for his criminal child. Have ya heard the voicemail?

 

Trump's businesses have lost or settled multiple civil suits and they are now facing criminal indictment. The only defense for Trump himself that his lawyers have really offered is that he was completely disconnected from the businesses he was supposedly leading and had no idea what was going on. And he has publicly contradicted his own lawyers on that. But calling Biden a "crime boss" while being okay with Trump's attempts to install himself as an unelected dictator would be funny if it weren't so sad.

 

"Gee Wally".... let's take another crime boss Joe example... I have proved you wrong so far, and all you gave was whataboutism about Trump...the OP is about "When you know the guy you voted for is guilty of a crime." which is Joe Biden... let's see... let's look at

Joe Biden....Who participate in a coup to overthrow a duly elected president.. Would you like to go there?

How bout "Who blackmailed a foreign government using US taxpayer money and claim it is US policy, while implicating his boss president"?

 

Trump was introduced in the OP, bud. So the only "whataboutism" here is you trying to dodge Trump and talk about Biden instead. Biden never tried to "overthrow" an election. Trump did. Yes, I'd like to go there, and there is a reason you are shivering in your boots about the prospect of doing so. As far as blackmailing foreign governments go, that's yet another example that applies to Trump and not Biden. You are on a ****ing roll.

 

If the courts find that he is guilty of trying to steal the election and punished through the letter of the law, then Trump is guilty and should be punished for his crimes.

I'm leaving this up to the courts...like the election results.

So far looks like much ado about nothing.

 

So if the courts rule against Trump, as they did for the election results, you are going to stand by that and won't be claiming that he's a victim?

Also, this makes no sense. You are saying you left this up to the courts . . . when what we are criticizing is that Trump DIDN'T leave it up to the courts. Should have have left it up to the courts?

 

Before there is a trial there has to be a crime. This mean something written in a statute, not dreamed up in someone's mind. Then non crimes carry no punishment.