When you know the guy you voted for is guilty of a crime...

The only Dumb thing going on here is you crying perjury .. claming what was done fits the definition .. but not stating what that definition is .. nor what fit that definition.

Thats called an unsupported claim G .. doesn't cut it in the adult room .. where the reasonable folks reside

"No idea what court" -- What court does not understand that not all lying is perjury ? First you need to figure out what Perjury is .. then your comments may approach coherency.

 

So you can clear all this up, right?

So lets start with Adam Schiff
claiming on several news networks he has possession of evidence that proves Trump conspired with Russians that he never produced
claiming his whistle blower claimed (X) and he would be produced to testify, which he never produced him to testify once everyone found out he worked for Schiff
taking no responsibility for his role in spreading contents of the fake dossier, for destroying public trust in the electoral system, for perpetuating a conspiracy theory, or for feeding a pliant media distortions and fabrications
Promoting the bogus Steele dossier he knew was not credible
Denying FISA abuse even though he knew it happened
His fictional version of the Trump-Zelenksy phone call

Pelosi
Claimed Sicknick was murdered with a fire extinguisher at the capital
Held her own personal impeachment inquiry without a house vote which meant their subpoenas were useless
Tried to collude with the general to take the football away from the president (Treason)
falsely claimed in an interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos that House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff’s fabrication of the transcript between President Trump and Ukrainian President Zelensky was actually real
We Have To Pass ObamaCare To Find Out What’s In It
The Capitol Hill riot on Jan. 6 was an “armed insurrection
Trump referred to Nazis and White supremacists as “very fine people
Racist police” are out to get Blacks
BLM/Antifa protests were “mostly peaceful
Hydroxychloroquine is not only useless against COVID-19, but extremely dangerous

And thats just the start

 

Not even close to James K. Polk.

But Biden is in the top five along with four other Democrats.

 

I'll jump in and assist @Giftedone, not that he needs it. Lying itself does not make perjury in any court in the land. Perjury is not determined in the least by what reasonable people, or any other person for that matter, think. Clinton committed perjury as defined by the courts and statutes; "reasonable people" had nothing whatsoever to do with it.

 

Probably… I used to have Obama at #1… but dementia crime boss Joe surprised me with making the US the #1 state sponsor of terror when he equipped the Taliban with $80 billion with our most sophisticated weaponry… aiding and abetting…. Should be treason charges but that won’t happen.

 

Hmmm .. .. much appreciated but , I am arguing that it was not Perjury. - not in keeping with the definition of perjury .. as defined by the courts.

As you say -- all lying is not Perjury .. -- the lying has to be relevant /material to the charged = the question to which the lie was give must be relevant to the charge.

Tell me ... how is the number of inches of Cigar inserted into Monica's oval orifice by Slick Willy - relevant to White Water .. material in any way shape or form .. and clarify why this relevance is especially important in the case of a "Special Prosecution" - where the normal rules of justice have been lifted.

A further note .. Dershowitz argued it was not Perjury .. and he was consistent in his position through Trump-gate .. arguing for the same reasons. and keep in mind that Congress voted to amend the process .. "BECAUSE" of the abuses raised by Dershowitz .. after the Clinton Kangaroo-clown show.

Got a big road to hoe their mate .. tell me how the definition of Perjury was met... ?

 

Oh! So you commented on a post about perjury without know what the word meant, and accused ME of not knowing.

Read my sig! I don't do your research. But I might have copied-pasted a definition if you asked nicely, explaining that you don't know how to use google... or something. Instead of that you made a false accusation. So you're on your own, fella!

 

No, thank you. I have zero interest in debunking Facebook bots. If you find have any serious evidence of a crime, open a thread. This one is about people you vote for and have SHOWN to have committed crimes. In my case that's Bubba. In your case that's Trump.

 

You mean you have no interest in holding anyone on the left accountable.
Most call that hypocrisy.

 

Oh... he needs it!

I'm not talking about courts. I'm talking about committing a crime. It has been demonstrated that Clinton committed perjury, just like it has been demonstrated that Trump committed.... well, the list of crimes is too long.

Where did you get that idea? Of course it can be determined by reasonable people. Especially because he ADMITTED it. But we knew it before that. You are again confusing committing a crime with being convicted for a crime. Only a court can convict somebody of a crime. But I'm not talking about being convicted. Just committing it.

What is amazing here is that suddenly the right-wingers are out defending Bill Clinton, only because they feel a need to hold the opposite position that the Democrat holds. And that's true for everything, regardless of logic or facts.

 

Nope, another deflection
He claimed you are crying perjury .. claming what was done fits the definition .. but not stating what that definition is .. nor what fit that definition.

 

Nope, another deflection
He claimed Perjury is not determined in the least by what reasonable people think.
Meaning, if you think something happened and testify to it, you are not knowingly lying.

 

Where did I get Perjury wrong.. who is the one making false accusations.. blathering insults from the peanut gallery with no support for claim .. because you got it handed to you once again.

You are the one claiming Slick Willy perjured himself .. but you have not supported this claim .. and didn't understand that not all lying is perjury.. and apparently are still havn't figured it out.

 

There is no hope here anywhere to be seen. Your ignorance here is solidly set in concrete and will not budge.

 

So, there you have it folks. Bubba didn't knowingly lie when he said he did not have sex with that woman.

Hilarious!

 

I think, in your case, you just jumped into a debate without understanding what it was about. As a result, you ended up defending Bill Clinton (which was who it was about) inadvertently, I assume.

Which is really funny.

 

Well, it wasn't, which was my point. Unless you are referring to Clinton who committed open and shut perjury in front of a grand jury and also IIRC in front of a federal district judge.

 

Clinton's perjury charge had nothing to do with "sex with that woman."

 

Possibly I misread some of the context; can't say for sure. I never defended Bill Clinton regarding his perjury charge (or near charge). He was guilty (of criminal perjury) as sin.

 

Who cares! It's funny! I don't take that poster seriously.

You need to pay more attention to the context.

 

Your conclusion is absolutely accurate. But it depends on "what the meaning of 'is' is." By which I mean that, because there was no court trial, your conclusion is shared by any rational person. Which means that reasonable people will conclude that he's guilty as hell.

 

How do square your comment with Hunter Biden and the recently released e mails partnering up with Russian and Chinese interests when he was VP. Not only did Joe Biden know about his son Hunter’s shady and compromising business with China, he lied about it, is a part of it, and there is a voice mail Hunter’s laptop.
So while you seem to be overly receptive to every accusation about Trump, you seem to ignore the firehose of provable accusations against the Biden’s making possibly compromising deals with our adversaries ever as early as 2018.

 

There you have it folks
Another made up Golem post because he doesn't have the ability to dispute something.
More deflections

 

Did you not read my last post mate ? Who did you think "Slick Willy inserting cigar into Monica's oval orifice" was referring to ?

In any case .. now that we know who is being referred to "Got a big road to hoe their mate .. tell me how the definition of Perjury was met... ?"

 

I have never voted for Hunter Biden. So I have no idea what he has to do with this thread.

If you have a question about somebody I voted for and was PROVEN to have committed a crime (like Bill Clinton), go for it! Or about somebody I didn't vote for, but many in this forum did, and was proven to have committed a crime dozens of crimes (Trump)... then I'll be glad to do my best to answer.

But, if that's the case, please start by telling us what the crime is.

No! I'm only receptive to the ones that have been proven. Like Bill Clinton's.

In the case of Trump it just so happens that the number of crimes he has been proven guilty of are so many that you would have to be in a Cult to Trump, or something like that, to believe at this point that he's not a criminal.