Where did the Romans come from?

The difference between Rome and the Greek states is that the slaves of Rome could be freed and could have the rights enjoyed by citizens. Whereas Greece was a little more rigid in their treatment of slaves. I believe the Spartans had a nasty attitude towards the helots.

Certainly and they were still at the forefront even prior to Rome's conquest of Greece.

Do you have a link to an online version? Might be worth a gander.

 

Oh god. That lunacy. It's great to have an imagination but marketing it as a likely tale is bordering on dangerous.
One of the chief loony's is on my avatar.

Because it's easy to jump to easy conclusions. Cultures do influence each other and exchange ideas.

 

Trojans are usually found in bathrooms or drug stores.

 

Drug stores are definitely banned in Australia. We have chemists.

 

Try to remember that there was no Greece until 1832 , Spartans did a Spartan thing, Corinth their own and Athens something much different.
Slavery started as a way to strengthen city manufacturing because Greece has no significant valleys or plains . Mycenaeans for example subjugated Argos and took all Argeans to open shops in Mycenae . In Athens children of slaves were born Athenian citizens and before Solon Athenians with debt had to sell themselves into slavery .

 

Some Greek slaves became very wealthy in their own right. Slavery was a mixed bag, and not to be conflated with chattel slavery in all cases. There were legal rights and conventions to be followed.

 

Yes I know. That's why I said Greek states rather saying just Greece.

A common practice in the classical world and even today.

 

Only in some states. Most of them could do as they wished with them.

 

The Italians belong to haplogroup R1b-S28 and all R1b branches originated in West Asia. Canfield et al. (2013) found that the mutated segment of DNA called the A111T mutation among light-skinned Europeans was derived from two other mutated segments commonly found in East Asian populations and modern Europeans' genetic ancestry could be traced back to East Asians. The A111T mutation separated Europeans from East Asians around 50,000 years ago and R1b people or Indo-European tribes gradually migrated from West Asia, spanning from Afghanistan and South Siberia, and entered the Italian Peninsula around 1,200 BC.

 

That's interesting, I collect maps. My earlier statement that the Etruscans were non indo-European was based on the fact that they spoke a non indo-European language. But genetics provides new insights; our perhaps the map is wrong which I think is more likely. 😏

 

Migrations of one group or another doesn't prevent small groups not closely related from colonized an area. It's not impossible for Etruscans to have originated in Turkey regardless of where other groups migrated into Italy from. Phoenicians, Greeks, Mycenaeans, 'Sea Peoples', etc. all established colonies among 'indigenous' peoples around the Mediterranean, which makes genetic evidence less than absolutely conclusive.

 

True, Wikipedia concurs.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etruscans
Their social system was similar to Magna Graecia but more aristocratic leaning. Their mDNA was related to near eastern mDNA.

 

Or the genetic map is correct...and there is no evidence they spoke anything other than an indo-european language...