Where Next?

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  1. yangforward

    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which country is the US going to help next?

    We went pretty much directly from Afghanistan to Ukraine,
    and now with about 1/2 million dead in Ukraine it is time
    to think about helping another country.

    But which one?
     
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    Whoever has the dirt on the bidens to blackmail him with next.

    To date we have given Ukraine over $100 billion United States taxpayer dollars.

    How much United States infrastructure or other programs could have been accomplished with that much money?
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If they give 700 dollars to each person who has lost their home in Hawaii
    then if 3,000 homes have been destroyed, that's 2.1 million dollars,
    about 2/1000th of a percent of the amount of 'help' we have given Ukraine.
     
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    I'd say Taiwan will be next. Xi is gearing up to attack it, and Biden is a weak, compromised old man, who family as taken millions from the Chinese.

    The trouble is most of the computer chips come from there. Xi will have the U.S. economy by the throat for a while.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Taiwan should be an issue for the courts, especially since the US
    subscribes to the One-China policy, so it's hard to justify going to
    war to prevent the One-China policy from being implemented,
    even though Joey Biden wants to show off his muscles.
     
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    Which shithole is the United States going to dive into next? Just ask the central banks of "the West", or, direct the question to the International Monetary Fund (IMF). We've been up to our earlobes in this kind of destructive, interventionist idiocy since the end of World War II.

    It didn't really matter much what adventures we go into -- until the Federal Reserve Central Bank completely hijacked the economy of the United States at the onset of the "Great Recession" in August 2007. But now, things are different, and we'll understand that in much greater detail about one year from now.
     
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    If you have lost your home, $700 might buy you a week in a flea-bag motel in Hawaii. The real aid will come later in the form of grants and loans. Congress just has to authorize it. FEMA's meaningful aid takes years to fully reach people and governments in disaster areas, and is funded by separate appropriations after the event(s).
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But by way of contrast, in mid 2021 we sent 700 million dollars, mainly of weapons, over to Kyiv in Ukraine, BEFORE the claimed start of the War in Feb 2022.

    Since the delay doesn't apply so some '''''help''''' why does it apply to actual help?
     
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    FEMA is really poorly named because it implies it manages emergencies. It does not. It mostly provides economic assistance on the back side. They have a very limited budget for real time aid. Governments have to submit projects related to the disaster, then FEMA has to approve it, and then wait for the aid to come and the work to begin. Individuals have to apply, prove they are eligible and wait for approval for other than the spot aid like these $700 checks. Not all of the projects locally have been completed yet that were part of a hurricane like 6 years ago. I know this because the post with numbers are still around. These are the sites that were submitted afterwards that still haven't been fixed. All the major stuff is done, but the things like digging up roads and replacing culverts, or fortifying washed out hillsides are lower priority.

    Anyway, like I said it is all about Congress. They approved the aid for Ukraine and they will have to approve the millions that will be coming eventually to Hawaii if it happens. With the freedom caucus willing to throw the baby out with the bath water, who knows how much or when the funding will happen though.
     
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    All this back-and-forth about "aid" led me to review my own homeowner's insurance policy, and, sure enough, there's coverage in it for "alternative living expenses" -- and it turns out that this is a customary feature in all such home owner's insurance policies!

    "Homeowners insurance generally covers alternative living expenses if you have to live elsewhere while your home is repaired." Link: https://www.experian.com/blogs/ask-...ernative,alternative living expenses are paid.

    FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) has a mission which reads, "The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) supports citizens and emergency personnel to build, sustain, and improve the nation's capability to prepare for, protect against, respond to, recover from, and mitigate all hazards.": Link: https://www.usa.gov/agencies/federa...agement Agency,from, and mitigate all hazards.

    The question that should be first and foremost right now, BEFORE we start throwing around billions and billions of dollars, is, "Where does FEMA's involvement end, and involvement of homeowner's insurance coverage provisions begin?"
     
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    In WW2 the Russians took the German rocket hardware and we took the German scientists.
    Our chip plants are being delayed because our STEM kids aren't quite up to the technical task of handling the equipment. This is a very under reported story.
    Hopefully if Xi goes for it, we will destroy the cutting edge plants and "re home" Taiwanese brainiacs.
     
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