Where that food comes from…

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  1. politicalcenter

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    20220601_170411.jpg This fig comes from a rooted cutting. See the little figs? The next year, after planting this one out I took some more. I got a dozen fig trees now. 20220601_170426.jpg This is the biggest cutting.
     
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    Nice. What kind of fig is that?

    I can only grow cold hardy varieties like Brown Turkey up here.
     
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    I don't know the type of fig. It came from the neighbors tree.
     
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    I have pineapple, mango, sugar apple, lemons, grapefruit, avocado and tomatoes growing here. Lychee tree died after we moved it. Its getting too hot for tomatoes, they that will go away. Oh, and Nispero aka Loquat, but no fruits yet.

    Doesn't it ruin the apatite thinking about them growing up? I don't know if I could eat animals that I raised. Fruits are different.
     
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    We recently put a pineapple top in the dirt and kept it watered. Bugger died in three days. My brother was constantly growing them, about one/month, so he had 24 at a time.

    how do you grow them?
     
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    You twist the head off a pineapple and stick it in the ground. You can also cut up the head and plant the pieces and then you get many out of one, but I just plant one after I eat one. I also make cocktails out of them.

    This one should be ready in about a month.

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    You got stuff that won't grow here. As far as eating animals I raised? It does come with some guilt but it is more humane than commercial pork or beef. And appetite???? I enjoyed them knowing I raised them myself.
     
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    That is cool.
     
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    So pretty. I did exactly that; nothing but brown.
     
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    Where do you live? Down here, right? They grow all year round in South Florida, and there is really nothing you need to do to maintain them. Just make sure you get it deep enough when you plant it (but not too deep).

    We are also trying to grow lipstick palms from the seed. If we can figure it out we might buy some land in Central Florida and grow some, because they go for a very good price at the nurseries (I've seen up to $500.00 for a small one). They dont tolerate cold though, so its high risk, unless you have some kind of greenhouse with heat for the winter.

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    Beautiful. I’m in Fort Lauderdale. They should be fine. Are we neighbors?
     
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    We are between Las Olas and I95, so probably not too far. I used to live right across the water from The Shooters & Charley's Crab
     
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    No, lol, we definitely are neighbors. I’m at Powerline and OPB.

    80% chance for TS on Fri/Sat. My husband is a hurricane expert. He’s more concerned about surge than winds at this point.
     
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    I used to grow plants to sell. I found the best profit in perrinial plant you could start one year and sell the next spring.
     
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    We installed impact windows & doors few years ago, so I don't worry about the wind any more. A surge won't be an issue this time because its coming from the West (over the Glades).

    We go to the Lowe's and Home Depot all the time near where you live.
     
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    Yeah, should be no big deal. The Atlantic is extra warm and the Pacific is extra cool, which can mean super busy season.
     
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    Thanks everyone for contributing to the thread. I’ve learned a lot about gardening in different climates.

    Was out in the pastures yesterday rotating a herd to different pasture. Here’s some future beef…

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    Looks like good grass.
     
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    Well it’s getting better. We had a very dry cold winter and actually had some grass winter kill which is rare. But the last three weeks have been very wet and things are perking up. Except for the hailed crops. :) I’m going to have to replant about 100 acres of soybeans and the garden has been torn up and set back severely by the hail.

    Keeps life interesting!
     
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    The grass looks a lot greener than a month or so ago.
     
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    I knew you would notice! Did the wheat dry out enough there to have a healthy reproductive phase? A neighbor here has a bunch of wheat but it was hailed pretty bad. It was headed and just blooming. We shall see. Wheat doesn’t like hail!
     
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    Spring has been fairly dry. Too dry until about a month ago but we've had perfect growing weather since.
    We had a half day threshing on Tuesday as one of the thatchers needed a ton. It was too hot and very dusty.
    We are behind though, only done about half of last year's harvest so far. Paul is worried that there won't be enough to supply everyone who has ordered straw because last year was such a poor harvest. Partly due to a very wet drilling season and partly due to an infestation of wild oats.
    One of the consequences of a shortage of straw and thatchers is that waiting lists to have a roof done get so long (up to 3 years) and people will have to consider stripping back all the thatch and re-roofing with tiles.
    Suffolk is one of the last holdouts for thatched roofs, along with Devon and Cornwall. They are much harder to find in most of the rest of the country. Once the railways were established thatch was doomed. Slate from Wales and tiles from the huge potteries in the Midlands could be distributed to any house within horse and cart range of a train station.
    Only the remoteness of rural agricultural counties like Suffolk kept the practice going past the mid 19th century.
     
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    How many years can you expect out of a thatched roof?

    When you add up the labor does it really make sense anymore?

    Back in the Indian and pioneer settler days palmetto and cabbage Palm frond roofing was very popular here.

    But now it seems that many people are going with galvanized sheet metal roofing. I think it last longer than shingles and you can expect probably a good 30 years out of it
     
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    I wish I could post a video from my phone but I can't seem to figure out how to make it work.

    There is a private dirt road about 3/4 of a mile down the street from me. Since I don't have my motorcycle endorsement yet and I just bought a new dual sport motorcycle I've been putting around on the local roads to include the private roads that are very close by.

    I went by this one and took a video there must have been about 150 head of cattle in this small area and in the herd there was about 20 donkeys.

    All feasting on watermelon that we have an overabundance of this time of year. In fact you could nearly drive a golf ball to a giant packing facility for watermelons it was just constructed near there
     
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    Straw will last 25-30 years and reed can last up to 70. The ridge, which must be made with straw as the reed is not pliable enough, will need re-doing after 15 years though.
    Thatched houses are definitely more expensive to maintain. A tiled roof might last 100 years and these days would be much cheaper to build. Thatch is heavier than tiles by a lot more that you'd think so roof beams have to be stronger. Oak instead of pine.
    Owning a tiny little thatched cottage even is only for the rich. For a start most have to be bought cash as mortgages are hard to get due to the risk of fire. Insurance is very expensive.
    Thatch does have a few things going for it though.
    First of all it is very pretty and therefore desirable.
    It has very good insulation qualities.
    It is very low carbon compared to every alternative except possibly wooden shingles. Tiles and bricks have shot up in price with energy inflation which shows how high a carbon footprint they have. Thatch is an organic by-product of wheat.
    Tradition. Thatched houses are a recognisable part of English culture and they support traditional jobs and skills which would disappear otherwise.

    Does it make sense?
    I think it definitely does but not financially.
     
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