Where would you be safer: a modern developed nation, or an underdeveloped third world country?

This comparison between the response to the coronavirus in the U.S. (mostly focusing on NYC), and how Costa Rica is dealing with it is astounding.

Full disclosure (and most here know this), I lived, worked and studied in Costa Rica for a long time many years ago. So I may be a bit biased. But results don't lie.

One thing this video omits to mention is that Costa Rica developed its own testing and is now exporting test kits to other countries.

 

I'll take "Places where the following things don't exist for $500, Alex."

https://borgenproject.org/common-diseases-in-costa-rica/

OP is completely and irrefutably invalidated by the massive use of malaria medications that also kill Corona in CR. Why leave that out? I know why. Anyone who has ever read OP's posts knows why.

 

I am currently on lockdown on a small Bahamian island of just under 2000 people. Over Easter weekend, we experienced 6 days of full lockdown with nothing open except the clinic. During the week, the grocery store and bank are open, and 90 minutes of outdoor exercise is permitted, but on an individual basis and only in the immediate neighborhoods of the participants. Then, on weekends, a full lockdown is reinstated. The PM of the country issued a shut down of all non essential services (truly non essential), but allows for grocery stores and wholesale providers to that industry to be open. All liquor stores have been closed for over a month now. No inbound flights are permitted, nor are boats permitted to travel between islands other than freight boats supplying groceries. There are no cases here.

The number of cases in the country's capital are at 50, but the mortality rate is high. PPE and ventilators are a major issue. A supply ship from the US made it to our docks, but was ordered back by the US government.

I feel safer than I could be back in the US. With no one coming or going from this island - and with no cases at present, I feel confident that I'll make it out without a problem. The real problem - as with everywhere - is how this country will rebound economically. Without tourism - the country's only GDP - everything will collapse.

 

WTF? Malaria is almost unheard of in Costa Rica. Don't tell me you thought Costa Rica is in Africa!!!

Hilarious!!

 

Nope, no pilpul today thanks, malaria is on the list I linked that you ignored, at the TOP of the list of diseases affecting Costa Rica as a matter of fact. Antimalarial drugs are widespread in Costa Rica, and they are drugs of the types that are now PROVEN to mitigate corona.

This leads to the instant, inevitable conclusion that the whole OP including the "lie of omission" video is now over. Sorry bout that.

Feel free to keep beating the dead thread horse though, which I am absolutely sure that you will do.

 

No infectious disease is widespread in Costa Rica. Their healthcare system ensures that any outbreaks, which usually occur when there is a particularly large immigrant influx, are quickly controlled, as the video I sent states. In Costa Rica, if anybody were to mention that somebody had "malaria", they immediately imagine it's somebody coming from some exotic place in ... Africa or something....

Do you know how they control these diseases? By providing free healthcare to everybody. Even illegal immigrants. They are quickly isolated and treated. This is why, at least for now, the coronavirus hasn't been as widespread in Costa Rica as it is here.

Your ignorance is amazing. Malaria (and similar diseases) outbreaks aren't controlled with drugs. They'r'e controlled by eliminating the breeding sources of mosquitoes. Something that they know how to do very well. You could look at a map and try to see where Costa Rica is.

BTW, they have not been proven to mitigate corona except in the mind of Donald Trump. Maybe one day they will be, maybe they won't. But "proven" is not a word that should ever be uttered by anybody who is close to the Party that so many times has denied science fact.

 

I think you ask an interesting question. In the context of the US, if you're rich yeah you want to be here. You can afford to go to the hospital and get really good healthcare. But if not, then you might want to check out a curandero to see if they have anything to give you. Personally I don't feel all that safe in the US. My insurance isn't that good and I don't trust it enough yet to know if I afford treatment.

 

The above is a falsehood. Your posts, in fact, are crammed full of falsehoods and distortions generally. I linked a list of common Costa Rica diseases right in the thread. You ignored the whole thing, are ignoring it again. Whether any of those well-known listed diseases meets -your- definition of "widespread" is irrelevant.

Malaria is indeed far less widespread in tropical climates than it was in the past, and this is partially, maybe chiefly, due to drugs, quinine-based drugs of the exact types that coincidentally treat COVID19. That was my point. You ignored that too, but that doesn't change the fact that your whole OP and the half-truth of a video you posted in it are now completely obviated.

Whatever half-assed point you were attempting about comparisons of the medical systems in Costa Rica and the U.S. (a hilariously inane misadventure out of the gate even WITHOUT common malaria/COVID19 drugs in CR), really just another Orangemanbad attempt, are gone, irretrievably lost in complete wrongness.

All utterly irrelevant.

1. Quinine based drugs are highly prevalent in tropical climes like CR. This is a fact.
2. Quinine based drugs effectively treat COVID19. This is also a fact.
3. Therefore no comparisons of the two medical systems that do not account this necessary context are useful.
4. Better luck next thread.

Yet -another- red herring, your posts, at least, serve as a cautionary tale for freshmen Intro to Logic classes.

The first sentence of the above is yet another falsehood. The second sentence is an ad hominem.

 

Malaria was almost unheard of in Costa Rica when I lived there in the 80s and 90s.

Your whole post is nonsense. You claimed that the "widespread" use of malaria drugs was what kept Costa Rica safe. But now now you say that the word "widespread" is irrelevant. I know from friends that there have been cases of malaria. But they are limited and quickly controlled. You thought that epidemics like malaria were stopped by drugging people. Malaria is not transmitted person to person. It's transmitted when a mosquito bytes an infected person, and then a healthy person. So the way you deal with it is by eliminating the mosquitoes. Some for other diseases that are much more common in Costa Rica than malaria. But there is no reason to drug people because those diseases are not widespread.

And I have proven that that point is complete nonsense.

What is correct is that Costa Rica has an excellent healthcare system. People just... walk into a hospital. They know they are not going to pay a dime. Even illegal aliens get treatment. So it's easy to locate who is infected. Which is the main problem we have: we have no idea who is infected.

You're right that it's a "hilariously inane misadventure". Costa Rica beats our ass by a mile. But then again, they "cheat". Because they have universal healthcare.

I see you doubling down on something you know nothing about. That is absolute nonsense! But again you "revive" the relevance of "widespread". You can't make up your mind, can you!

I know that in Trumpworld, "fact" mean "whatever Trump says". In the real world we prefer Science.

 

Safer from Cvirus? I'm safer from it right where I am (rural WA) as I would be anywhere. Except for some isolated mountaintop, I suppose.