Which Christian denominations have we got here?

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Lindis, Nov 12, 2021.

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I am or once was .....

  1. Catholic

    5 vote(s)
    11.6%
  2. Anglican

    2 vote(s)
    4.7%
  3. Baptist

    5 vote(s)
    11.6%
  4. Lutheran

    4 vote(s)
    9.3%
  5. Calvinist

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Methodist

    3 vote(s)
    7.0%
  7. Pentecostal

    1 vote(s)
    2.3%
  8. Eastern Orthodox

    3 vote(s)
    7.0%
  9. Oriental Orthodox

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Non-Trinitarian

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. a member of other Christian denominations

    8 vote(s)
    18.6%
  12. a member of other religions

    4 vote(s)
    9.3%
  13. no religion

    15 vote(s)
    34.9%
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  1. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Where? What issue?

    What argument of yours was I speaking to?

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I show you the power of the Cross, and you give me words.

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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow!!!!

    That is over my head and above my Security Clearance Level with the most fundamental energy and most Ancient Intelligences but.....
    I think you will like what former Atheist and near death experiencer Mellen Benedict was shown about this earth realm as being where the real action was at!



    https://near-death.com/mellen-thomas-benedict/


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    You could have just answered, yes.

    But you didn't. That means you believe Joseph Smith is at least partly your savior.
    You came to this thread as a wolf in sheep's clothing.
    You know and I know that that was a very deceptive answer - even if others are not well enough educated to know better.
    One of course means Joseph Smith and his church.

    This is where you and the Papists have something in common. Unlike the other "denominations" you'all have determined that everyone not part of your select denomination are going to hell or some lesser form of heaven. You'all like to make the "afterlife" complicated. Something else you both have in common. I personally don't consider either the Papists or the Mormons to be Christian - although I do believe some may be save despite the religion they are a part of rather than because of it.
     
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    Chapter six of near death experiencer Dr. Kevin Zadai's free online book and theology course entitled "Heavenly Visitation" goes into how Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus went into the lowest levels of hell for three days before His resurrection.

    https://www.warriornotesschool.com/courses



    Near death experiencer and former Atheist Rabbi Alon Anava had an experience a lot like Matthew chapter four as well. His conclusions after his 2001 near death experience remind me of Matthew chapters five, six and seven, (The Sermon on the Mount).



    My Life After Death Experience" with Alon Anava
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    Oct 5, 2014

     
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    No.

    The temple prostitutes goal was to subvert morality so that people would be more open to other things. They served the same role that Charles Manson used them for.
    He was filled with God' spirit and was the son of God.
     
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    While many who claim to be doing his work were genocidal, there is nothing in Jesus' life or teaching to make him genocidal. I'll give you suicidal by proxy though.
     
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    Overgeneralizing, especially in light of other religions such as Wicca and other pagan religions. For that matter more Christians actually do follow the example of the Christ then the vary vocal and visible minority do. Hell, most of them you probably don't even realize are Christian, or some other religion.
     
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    It isn't my fault that you have not the courage or honesty to admit your attempt at deception. Instead you follow it with dark wrath. I know that Joseph Smith was chosen by Jesus Christ to restore his church along with his authority thru Joseph Smith. This makes him remarkable as the first prophet of the restoration. If that troubles you, then blame your tradition or blame God. It doesn't matter to me.
     
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    I asked you a question which allowed you to open and share your full beliefs. Instead, you obfuscated. When I persisted, you got upset.
    Thank you for being open about your beliefs.
    It doesn't bother me at all because I know he is a false prophet.
     
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    There are a lot of false prophets in this world. I don't agree with Injeun's faith, but why are you putting suspicions in people's minds about his intentions?
     
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    "Papist" is an insulting word for "Catholic".
    I am sure you know that.
    Is it not against the rules, to insult other persons because of their religion?

    And you are not well informed: Catholics do not believe that all others go to hell.
    And whatever you consider or not consider: The Catholic faith is a Christian faith, of course!
     
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    Thanks Jeannette. He wanted to undermine a Mormon for sport.
     
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    Do you remember what the Jesus character said about trees?

    Matthew 7:18 (ERV) = "A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot produce good fruit."

    So, if the leadership is bad then all of the fruit is bad and the leadership has been bad for 2,000 years. Jesus says that your tree produces bad fruit.
     
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    Catholic is is an insult to Christians. It implies that they are the true Christians while everyone else is not. Papist is a more accurate decision because submission to the Pope is the primary distinguishing characteristic of the religion.

    I did not insult you.
    extra ecclesiam nulla salus

    Not, everyone. Just those who oppose the Papists. But even then, in the afterlife they have to join the Papists.
    Definitely not.

    They are the result of the Roman Imperial Church - the church of the emperors. The religion is based on the traditions which were formed by the Roman Imperial Church.
     
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    Not trying to do this. So, if you have suspicions about his intentions, you must have gotten it on your own.
     
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    1)I am assuming you are talking about the Church after Constantine .. 2) some more color please .. I understand that Constantine gave Christianity "Homoousios" aka - the Trinity doctrine .. not sure I would call this a roman tradition. I understand that in general the elite were worshiping MIthra .. while the lower class soldiers were the ones more likely to identify as Christian

    Know we got Ishtar/Easter from the ancient celebrations .. and xmas ..
     
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    Some do ... most don't - as they are not really aware of what the example is in many respects - too much dogma clouding the issue in most cases .. alot depends on the local priest/minister.
     
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    Clever lies are still lies. Is it possible for you to answer honestly. Do you believe that God can give an honest answer to an honest prayer?
     
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    Ishtar/Easter and other celebrations . . and xmas . . are not that important as far as what I am concerned. I know a lot of people attack the trapping like what the Pope wears or the incense, etc. , but that's not what concerns me.

    The Roman Emperor was the one who decided who was to be pope, what people could or could not believe, etc. The Roman Emperor was the head of the Church - something that the Church of England re-enacted when they split from Rome. It was until the western Roman Empire fell that the Papacy rose. Even then, the Papacy integrated itself with whichever ruler there was at the time.

    "Homoousios" is just one example of many. The word was considered to be heretical until a Roman Emperor suggested it. Afterwords it suddenly became not only non-heretical but required for all Christians.

    Not-a-St. Augustine cemented the incorporation many foreign ideas of Roman imperial religious thought - including the attacks on heterosexual sex and Classical Theism. There are hundreds of years of this.
     
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    That is a shameless distortion. At least you are consistent.

    I am always honest. So I reject your condescension in kind for the dismissive insult it is.

    You know nothing of the sort. The living God answered Joseph Smiths honest prayer. You say he is a false prophet because his answer from God destabilizes the entire construct of your system of belief if he is taken seriously. I understand that faulting Smith is what you have to do to cope. But in fact it should be noted that Joseph Smith justifies Jesus Christ and the plan of salvation in the Bible. But in so doing it shakes your foundation and troubles your soul in consideration because Joseph Smiths testimony is of an autonomous, living God, rather than one kept alive by wrote, growing and shrinking by ones belief or unbelief. As for me, I had no great investment to vacate, and no great rubble from under which to crawl in conversion. For me it was for light to enter my darkness, and for amnesia to be displaced by remembrance. And though my faults are many, my hope and trust are certain.
     
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    You show immorality while calling evil good.

    Word you fear because they show you do not care if you have to sin to be saved, pathetic piece of human garbage.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Garbage.

    Would you believe I went to heaven and screwed God in my NDE?

    If not, why believe the liars you link?

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    **** off with your G D supernatural fantasy garbage.

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    DL
     
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    The spirit of Yahweh is that of a genocidal moral monster.

    Armageddon does the same for your Jesus.

    Both belong in the hell Christianity created.

    Prove me wrong, or justify your love of a genocidal prick of a god.

    BTW, I am not surprised that believers think the original church was created to subvert morality.

    It continues to do so today with homophobia and misogyny and preaching that an evil Jesus is actually a good god, or half god or whatever the hell you think he is.

    Regards
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