Which party doesn't need to be constantly at war?

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Which countries should we be at war with?

  1. Russia

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  2. China

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  3. Iran

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  4. North Korea

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  5. Syria

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  6. All of the above

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  7. Only wars for oil, gas and pipelines that benefit the US

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  8. Only wars that increase weapons sales to the US or other powers

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  9. Only wars in the Western Hemisphere

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  10. Only wars due to a legitimate outside threat

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  1. yangforward

    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which party doesn't need to be constantly at war, usually on the other side of the planet?

    I think this is the most important issue as wars:
    1. supply half of the National Debt,
    2. and therefore determine what our dollar will be worth next year

    The wars we get involved in will determine our future.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Implicit in the Opening Post was that I couldn't pick either party -
    The Republican Party with GW Bush started 2 major wars, both of which we lost and
    neither benefited the nation
    The Democratic Party with Joey Biden is searching the Eastern Hemisphere for opportunities
    for war and has found several.

    So it is going to be down to individual politicians and the public to restrict our urge for war.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If it is claimed the US is under an external threat then
    our first action would be to close the border.

    And because that hasn't been done, Biden's claims that
    countries w, x, y, and z are threats to us are insincere.
     
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    Daddy Bush went to war against Iraq liberate Kuwait. That was probably the correct thing to do although a more powerful Iraq going to war with Iran might been a good for the world as long as neither of them had nuclear weapons. It was sort of like Nazi Germany versus the Soviet Union prior to World War II. They both sucked so picking a side with white hats was impossible.

    Sonny boy Bush stumbled when he started the war with Iraq. That was stupid. He didn’t have much choice in Afghanistan because we had to kill bin Laden after the 9/11 attack. The trouble is we stayed around for the nation building BS, which has rarely worked out. The last time it worked was Japan after World War II, but that was a rare exception.

    Now Israel is out one reliable partner in the Middle East. We give gobs of money to Egypt, yet when we needed them to open their border to help us out with refugees from Gaza, they dragged their feet.
     
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    Russia needs to be at war with someone at all times for the same reason that Oceania constantly had to be at war with someone -- to keep Big Brother (Putin) in power indefinitely.
     
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    Yup. The Uniparty LOOOOOOOOOOOVES war.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The weapons makers (aka 'defense industry') fund both parties, so we get wars either way.
     
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    I do believe that we should admit that we have been in the economic part of WWIII against China for some time now......

    Chinese influence over the USA and Canada is shown by how our leaders are behaving in a way that will destroy our economy.... [and our military depends on our economy]........

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-to-crash-the-markets.600585/#post-1073510856

    Do Biden's advisors and Trudeau's advisors seem to want to crash the markets?





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    Do Biden's advisors want to create an economic crisis?

    1. No
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    3. I certainly hope not????
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    4. I hope so... because I know how to invest no matter which way this goes!
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    My position wasn't one of the choices. We should avoid war like the plague. Watch China. They are doing in right. They are taking over the planet without firing a shot.
     
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    Now Israel is out one reliable partner in the Middle East. We give gobs of money to Egypt, yet when we needed them to open their border to help us out with refugees from Gaza, they dragged their feet.[/QUOTE]
    That reluctance might be due to being fully aware of what those refugees bring with them.
     
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    This is last 25 years history

    Republican President W. Bush started war in Afghanistan 2001

    Republican President W. Bush started war on terror – 2001

    Republican President W. Bush started war in Iraq in 2003.

    I rest my case.
     
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    You're leaving out an awful lot of years..... Obama had us in wars... Trump didn't... and now Biden has us in wars yet again...

    Sounds to me like "both parties" (aka the Uniparty) love wars. Trump (and his MAGA voter coalition) don't like wars, though.
     
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    You seem to have forgotten a number of things... but who cares, you waived your pathetic partisan flag.. ye ha....
     
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    Oh you should check out history. Obama didn’t start any war. Obama had no choice but continue G.W Bush misguided 3 wars – war in Afghanistan, War in Iraq and War on Terror.

    By the way , during Trump, America was fighting in Afghanistan, America was fighting in Iraq , America was fighting in Syria . Trump ordered to drop bomb in Syria and then went on CNN and told he bombed Iraq. The guy can’t even remember which country he bombed.
     
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    oh you want me to write the things I left out ?

    so here it is

    a half-naked guy call Osama , who can’t even afford running water but s$$$ in a hole in Afghanistan attacked USA, and the Great Republican G.W. Bush took us to three wars – War in Afghanistan, War in Iraq and War on Terror aka war on everyone. Spent 9 trillion dollar and thousands of American lives.

    Did I leave anything else out?

    Oh , Bush couldn’t even get the half-naked Osama. Democrat POTUS had to get Osama.
     
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  16. yangforward

    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obama delegated war starting to the VP and Secretary of State.

    Watch how his underlings started the civil war in Ukraine which preceded the hot war
    it is described in 'Ukraine on Fire' 2016 by Oliver Stone and others.
     
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