Which proposed COVID-19 vaccine do you favor?

We seem to have a handful of 'candidate' vaccines that are all likely to get federal approval for distribution very soon in the United States.

Without going into a long prelude, which of them, based on what we know or have read to date, do YOU, personally, feel like you trust the most for injection into YOUR body?

Disclosure: Me? I'm inclined to think I'd trust the Moderna vaccine more, but I'm not a 'health professional'. The Moderna vaccine is supposed to be well over 90% effective, doesn't seem to involve any worse side-effects than the other vaccines, and, it doesn't have to be kept hard-frozen to a temperature of NINETY-FIVE DEGREES BELOW ZERO!.

. "Send me ALL of the dry ice in America -- NOW!"

 

I'm inclined to not trust either of the mRNA vaccines. They are based on an entirely new platform that was rushed through development and testing. The Oxford vaccine is based on an established platform (adenovirus) but the Brits screwed up the testing. That leaves the Sputnik V from Russia, also based on the established adenovirus platform. Not sure about China's Sinovac and how it was made.

The bottom line for me is that, living here in the US, the only vaccines that will be made available will be one of the mRNA vaccines so I will decline taking the jab.

 

I won't be taking any vaccine.

 

We, the 'little people' -- tax-payers and other 'commoners' -- probably won't have any vaccines available to us until at least next April.

If there are any serious problems that arise because of the vaccines, we'll probably find out about them by then.

I'm still not able to understand why you should have to take a HALF-dose of the vaccine initially, and only after that, follow with a FULL-dose of the same vaccine. I'm not a 'health professional' and my degree isn't in microbiology, but that seems very strange to me.

Still in all, when next April rolls around, if everything still looks as 'good' as it looks today, I'll opt for the Moderna vaccine(s), mostly because I don't trust anybody to be able to consistently and constantly refrigerate anything to a Fahrenheit temperature of NINETY-FIVE DEGREES BELOW ZERO!

Afterthought: whether anybody likes it or not, by the end of 2021, we will ALL be required to produce evidence that we have been fully vaccinated or we won't be allowed to travel, to go inside most public or private places, or to do so many of the things we used to do routinely. In time, people won't give any more thought to being required to have a COVID vaccination than they do about being vaccinated at birth for smallpox....

 

Iteresting question. I think it shows some of the weaknesses of our healthcare system.

In the US there is a one time analysis performed and then the government places their bets.

On the contrary, in UK they have the ability to increase the numbers of likely vaccine candidates, with ongoing analysis of progress - allowing much greater flexibility in determing what's best.

In the US, we have the PRESIDENT demanding that a vaccine candidate be certified!!! That's not medical science. That's pure politics.

In UK, their system is designe to deliver healthcare to everyone. In the US, there are 50 different systems and no coordination at the top. So, issues like cold chain, orderly injection programs, etc. are all set in the UK - and NOT here.

And, lest someone argue that greater flexibility results, it's really not like that at all. Not having cold chain capacity doesn't give anyone more "freedom". It just means that product isn't available.

So, there ARE choices of which vaccine someone might get. But, because of these various characteristics it is NOT YOU who is at all likely to make these decisions.

For example, the vaccines that don't require cold chaing are going to be distributed to areas where there isn't cold chain capacity - which makes sense. Likewise, I live in Seattle, so the UW has significant cold chain capacity, so whever I get a vaccine it is almost certain to be a cold chain versions.

 

Sign me up for Sputnik V.

Why not?
It has been administered to the most people
and they live!

 

AstraZeneca to work on Covid vaccine combinations with Russia's Sputnik V developers

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...to-work-on-vaccine-with-russias-gamaleya.html

 

Why would a supposedly 92% effective vaccine need to add the AstraZeneca vaccine to make it work?

The Russian efforts over promise on very spare documentation even more than Trump's promises!

Concluding a vaccine is highly effective after a trial of a dozen subject? Puhlease!!!

If you like that deal, I have a nice Russian power plant on sale plant CHEAP! And it glows in the dark even when the generators are OFF!

 

The first one I can get.

 

I would favor the Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine because it is the product of a collaboration between two serious companies.

Alternatively, I’ll take the first one available to me.

 

The one that works, that's the one I will be taking.

 

I will consider the one that the Chinese leaders took before they unleashed their rage on the rest of the world's economies and that will be no sooner than one year from now.

 

The Oxford-AZ vax at this point even though it has not been released. The six month shelf life in normal refrigerated temps makes it logically a safer supply chain. The regimen starts with half-strength first dose which could give those people allergic a better chance to find out that before they got the full strength second dose. I like that they have been more candid with their mistakes/setbacks during development unlike Pfizer. I also like that they are not being rushed through for political reasons. They also didn't just tokenly stop testing when a couple people had the same possible severe adverse reaction of transverse myelitis and they stopped it to find out why they were getting erratic results ( a third party manufacturer was screwing up the dosages). In short, I don't trust people and companies painting something as being perfect.

 

Not sure yet, but I'll get one so long as it's voluntary.

 

I take one of the mRNA, their test Phases have been very convincing. Over 70,000 people involved and they are at around 95%.
The first shot already produces 60% and if than getting infected a very mild run of the disease.
I think the curevac mRNA will be the best, stores at 41F

 

All of them that I can reasonably afford without travel and that work well with each other and won't make me deathly ill themselves. I just want one NOW, not next summer, get to WORK you azzholes

 

If you are able to travel to Russia, and if you have credentials that will you allow you to be vaccinated there, you may consider it. The Russian vaccine was the first, and no one has ever made a claim that it isn't effective (to my knowledge).

 

The Pfizer vaccination is worse than nothing for that reason. Almost no transportation systems or locations that would administer it has the equipment or trained personnel to assure it remains at -95 degrees - so there is no way to know if the vaccination has been allowed to get too warm anywhere along the way from initial storage, subsequent storage and all the stops and different transporting it. Thus, people could be vaccinated in good faith when in fact it was unknowingly already destroyed - leading people to believe they are vaccinated when not. Pfizer could write that off claiming people infected after the vaccination were just among those 5% exceptions.

 

I agree with you, and that's part of why I'll wait until the Moderna vaccine is available. And, I won't be in a big hurry to get it, either. I'm perfectly content to see how well ANY of these vaccines work on OTHER people between now and about April or May.

Hell, we, the "little people" probably won't even be able to be vaccinated before then anyway....

Meanwhile, I'm getting very, VERY interested in a commonly available medicine (not 'vaccine) that has been used for many years for, of all things, STOMACH WORMS! It's called "Invermectin", and it might -- just MIGHT -- be worth considering as part of the battle! I definitely plan to discuss this thoroughly with our family doctor.

Link: https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-1122/ivermectin-oral/details

 

Seems like as good a place as any to post this link for those interested in the vaccine
https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem....wxQ1ny9Fho1kdSrcCqbGwy8wd07-WHKnYhi7wkXAh1u-I

 

Thank you. So many are making medical decisions based on FB posts about microchips and chopped up babies, most of which who can't even spell vaccine.