Which will be first?

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which will be first?

  1. 1. A nuclear war with Russia

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    4.3%
  2. 2. A conventional war with China

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    8.7%
  3. 3. The Biden administration resigns

    5 vote(s)
    21.7%
  4. 4. Other response

    15 vote(s)
    65.2%
  1. JohnHamilton

    JohnHamilton Well-Known Member

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    Let’s hope. I think that Iran and North Korea might join them. World War III could start between Iran and Israel if the dim whit ayatollah thinks that dropping his nuke on the Jewish state would be his advantage. He’s been threatening to do it for years.
     
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    #4. None of the above.
     
  3. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    It seems, as a white nationalist, you would understand the need to defend a sovereign nation from an invading military. It is against international law and the world has every right assisting in its defense.
     
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  4. yangforward

    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The situation we made in Ukraine appears to be the opposite of the one we made in Iraq.

    In Iraq we accused Saddam of killing his own people, so we invaded his sovereign nation.

    In mid 2021 we supplied Kyiv with weapons and munitions which they used to kill civilians in the secessionary city of Donetsk, so Zelenskyy was killing his own people.

    And three weeks later Russian forces were moved in to protect the mainly Russian-speaking population of Donetsk.
     
  5. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    We did not make the "situation" in Ukraine, Putin did. And Russian forces have been bombing apartment buildings, schools, hospitals as well as shooting civilians in the street. You are obviously pro-Russia, what's your version of why Putin invaded?
    Iraq was invaded because of lies about "weapons of mass destruction".
     
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    No, it was YOU who made such a situation in Ukraine. You tore Ukraine away from the rest of Russia in 1991, when the State Emergency Committee fell and the Communists lost power. If Ukraine separated before these events, it would be clear why, but after the overthrow of the Communists for what reason? 100% of the population of Ukraine spoke Russian, had the same rights as other citizens, and all opportunities for peaceful living together and economic development opened up. Would Russia have attacked Ukraine if it had remained a part of it now? But the CIA strongly encouraged the activities of Ukrainian nationalists. The Ukrainian authorities have been leading the anti-Russian education of the population for years, banned everything that reminded Ukrainians that they are actually Russians. Even in kindergartens, children were told scary stories about evil Russians.
     
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    So many adjectives.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Therefore Russia has every right to invade a sovereign nation and kill it's citizens? I see comrade.
     
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    Russia will collapse and the US will take over the world. Happy ending.

    I love how cons always have the same predictions based on the same things which never happen. They constantly think that we all love them and we all really pine for the old days when we all hope the most of us will soon wake up and realise none of us really like that pesky freedom and how much happier we'll all be as obedient servants of our conservative betters
     
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    Ukraine is not a sovereign country. This is a proxy country controlled by the USA. When there was a Maidan (color revolution) in Ukraine and the democratically elected President Yanukovych was overthrown only because he had pro-Russian views, then Victoria Nuland herself and US Ambassador Jeffrey Pyatt personally came to the demonstrators and urged them to continue the riots, claiming that "America is with you." Ukraine is an evil entity whose sole purpose is to destroy Russia. This is the core of the Ukrainian idea, without it Ukraine does not exist.


    Ps: "comrades" have not existed for 30 years. Look under your bed
     
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    "Ukraine is an evil entity whose sole purpose is to destroy Russia"? You sound as irrational as Putin, comrade.
     
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    I am not your comrade! By the way, the word comrade in the USSR meant something close to the word "friend". And if you don't like my opinion, it doesn't mean it's irrational. Perhaps you are irrational yourself.
     
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    Russia is an evil entity whose sole purpose is to destroy Ukraine. There, I fixed it for you comrade.
     
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    And until the moment when Ukraine was formed, Russia had no purpose?
     
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    Its current sole purpose.
     
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    Trump found guilty?
     
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    India is gonna control the world's IT and AI - everyone is outsourcing IT to them
     
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    Yes and healthcare here.
     
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    We will probably engage in a "proxy" conventional "war" with China, but it will be mostly theatrics so that we don't completely lose face.

    The main thing that's probably going to happen is that as soon as we have gotten in operation a completed clone of Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company here in the States, there will be a mostly peaceful absorption of Taiwan by China. There will be a few fireworks at first, but it really won't be much of a fight. We'll bring thousands of Taiwanese over there to America who will bring their abilities and education with them and the whole matter will be settled fairly quickly.

    I don't see us getting into a direct war with Russia because that one really could spiral out of control and go nuclear. Russia would eventually lose such a war for a lot of different reasons, but many millions of people in the US, Europe, and Russia would die.
     
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    Interesting thoughts. Do you think China will happily relinquish the skill and brains of such an asset as the semi conductor production?
     
  21. conservaliberal

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    There are many high-tech manufacturers in Taiwan, but what kind of shape would those factories be in by the time Xi's forces actually become hands-on to them? Maybe not so great. I do believe that we would evacuate the "skill and brains" in Taiwan before the Chinese hostilities begin in earnest, and I've heard some circles indicate that those Taiwanese are in the process of rounding up their stuff and getting ready to leave already. TSMC is a very special operation, and every country in the world, including the US and China, depends on it for the most ultra high-tech equipment there is. Would there be anything left inside those TSMC buildings but dust and insects when the Chinese military arrives? Good question.
     
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