White farmers face surge of violence in South Africa

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    May god be with you!
     
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    The black Afrians will RUIN the nation's economy, as they have in Rhodesia and everywhere else they tried to pretend they could farm.
     
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    South African whites created this problem centuries ago and extended it into the 1990s by the principle of apartheid and excluding the blacks from sharing the wealth, political exclusion, and exclusion from education.
     
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    This video report showed up in my Youtube subscriptions:
    White South Africans Take Up Arms -- Afrikaners Aim to Counter Gov't Land Grabs, White Genocide

    One America News Network
    Published on May 21, 2018


    Controversial land reforms in South Africa are raising tensions as the nation's white minority arm themselves to defend their farms against government seizures. One America's Kristian Rouz has the story.
     
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    Not true. Some of the land was aquired by conquest, as was common practice among African tribes of the time. Most, however, was acquired by either treaty and agreement or because the land was empty.
     
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    It's then arguable, according to your logic, the process of conquest is now being applied against white South African farmers.
     
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    It isn't my logic. It's historical fact. However, it is not the same as a government passing laws that forceably take your land.
     
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    How is that different from conquest? The white farmers are vanquished and cannot resist.
     
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    In other words you can't find a single thing that actually supports your bogus allegation about Ramaphosa.

    Do you believe that Mandela was also a "power mad despot"?

    But since you have already invoked Godwin's Law that is a de facto concession on your part that you can't produce anything at all.

    Have a nice day!
     
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    So by what you have posted you have not done any research into the matter either. Black South Africans have to qualify for mortgages and pay for their houses on that land just like everyone else does. The only reason why the government is acquiring this land is because the demand has exceeded the supply and the need for housing is urgent.

    There does not appear to be any housing shortage for white South Africans but if there was I am sure the racist white supremacists would be screeching about that too.
     
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    That happened in Zimbabwe from what I have gathered but not in South Africa.
     
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    Like I said, liberals always have to go back - often hundreds of years - to maintain their perpetual victim status.

    Seriously, don't you ever get tired of being so feeble? You live off of trying to get people to feel sorry for you. Thank the Good Lord I am not like that.
     
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    Yep and you will find there has never been restitution for those crimes or wrongs.

    I don't ever want you to feel sorry for me, you want me to be like these other boot lickers that you love. Sorry just wasn't made that way to laugh when nothing is funny or to scratch when I don't itch.

    I am not going to turn a blind eye or deaf ear when I see an injustice being done.
     
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    I've already posted link after link with stories indicating exactly how and why Whites in South Africa feel threatened with violence and confiscation. To make it easier for you and those with you limited understanding to grasp, I've given historical examples of what happens when a government sanctions acts of violence, murder, and theft from a country's population -- purely because they're 'different', or suddenly "politically-incorrect:
    Jews in Nazi Germany.
    Farmers in Mao's China.


    You can cry "Godwin's Law" all you want -- the truth remains that 'NAZI IS AS NAZI DOES!' But it should be overlooked and ignored if the "Nazis" in this instance are Black? And the victims are White? And none dare call this RACISM?

    Wherever and whenever we see them, Te, 'Nazis' are what they are! That was true in the 1930's in Germany, and, unfortunately, it applies elsewhere in 2018.... Deny it if you must. The ghosts of many dead, violently abused victims of "Nazis" of many different nationalities -- in Germany, China, and many other countries where violence and confiscation were inflicted on innocent people would tell you that you're wrong! Surely LIBERALS, of all people, should be able to understand that instantly!

    One question, Te -- WHY in your opinion are White farmers in South Africa fearing for their lives? Why do they feel threatened with violence and confiscation to the point that they feel they must prepare to beg Australia to grant them access as refugees? For no reason at all? Nobody is stupid enough to believe that....
     
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    Oh? Then is this your idea of 'egalitarian' Black 'justice' in Zimbabwe? Please remember that I bothered to provide you with LINKS to credible information:

    http://www.newsweek.com/zimbabwe-president-robert-mugabe-white-farmers-651326
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-132504/Zimbabwe-white-farmers-fight-flee.html

    And you're SURE that the very same thing isn't about to happen in South Africa? Then what are the Whites in South Africa so frightened of? Black "justice"...?!
     
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    Or like how Trump, the power mad dictator , is going to seize private land so he can use it to build a wall?
     
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    Of course you do - so long as the right people are the victims of the injustice.

    But go back to feeling sorry for yourself over things that happened centuries ago. That's a healthy way to go through life!! Don't forget to remind us all how weak and feeble you and your people are.
     
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    The claim
    The plight of South Africa's farmers caught the attention of local politicians recently when Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton suggested white farmers were being persecuted and deserved "special attention" under Australia's humanitarian immigration program.

    Defending Mr Dutton's comments, former prime minister Tony Abbott told 2GB's Ray Hadley "there is a very serious situation developing in South Africa. Something like 400 white farmers have been murdered, brutally murdered, over the last 12 months".

    Mr Abbott made his claim on March 19, 2018, four days after Senator David Leyonhjelm urged Australia's immigration and foreign affairs ministers to help South Africa's farmers.

    In letters to both, he said: "In the last year more than 400 white farmers have been killed."

    Were 400 white South African farmers murdered in the last year? RMIT ABC Fact Check investigates.

    The verdict
    Mr Abbott's claim is baseless.

    There are no official statistics available for the past 12 months.

    The most recent police statistics show that 74 people were murdered on farms in the year to March 2017.

    That figure is well below the 400 claimed by Mr Abbott. Moreover, it includes all farmers, workers, families and visitors and all races.

    More recent figures, which identify white farmers, are available from the Transvaal Agricultural Union, a group representing the interests of farmers.

    According to their figures, there were 84 farm murders in the 2017 calendar year. Of these, 59 victims were white farmers.

    A further 15 people, including 8 white farmers, were killed on farms in the first three months of 2018. That means fewer than 70 white farmers were killed in the last 15 months.

    The police's latest data does reveal a rise in farm murders compared with the previous year, as does the union's data.

    However, experts told Fact Check that these changes reflected a general increase in murders across the entire South African population since 2012.
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-...e-south-african-farmers-murdered-year/9591724
     
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    C'mon man you know that that is like totally different, not.
     
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    I have finally become convinced that Trump is not (NOT) going to build a solid, 30-ft. high wall running 1,550 uninterrupted miles from the southern tip of Texas all the way to the Pacific Ocean at San Diego. WHEW! I must admit, that had me worried.

    No, he's going to put up wall-barriers in parts of several areas, like San Diego, El Paso, Nogales, parts of heavily-populated South Texas, etc. He'll use aerial surveillance drones to coordinate law enforcement officials on the ground. So, the amount of private land needed for "the wall" will be microscopic, and that's a good thing. Most of the land needed will be in "no-man's-land" areas. Visit El Paso, Texas sometime and examine the current border area. You'll see exactly what I mean... I've lived there, and I know what I'm describing.
     
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    There are lots of men in El Paso.
     
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    So it’s okay for power mad dictators to steal private land if they only steal a little bit?
     
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    Uh-huh.... So, since ONLY about 67 White farmers have been murdered in South Africa during the past, oh, year or so, the Whites who have been desperately trying to immigrate to Australia are just overreacting...?! :lol:

    Quit sidestepping the MAIN issue -- which is that a Black tyrannical mob-rule is threatening White people with confiscation, violence, and death, for NO reason at all except that they want to STEAL what these Whites had achieved over many years because they were smart, efficient, industrious, and CAPABLE of doing what the indigenous population hadn't been able to achieve in the thousands of years that no 'Whites' lived there at all!
     
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    And yer point being?
     
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    They have sown a great deal.......and fed their black brothers and sisters. Curious, do you take a similar attitude toward your Jewish brethren who stole Israel from the Palestinian people at the end of a bayonet??? The White SA farmers merely started farming land that nobody was farming.......
     
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