"White House seeks to clarify Trump remarks on emergency"

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  1. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    He is given that power because national emergencies REQUIRE rapid and complex responses.

    But when trump says that he does not NEED to make a national emergency declaration, then he is admitting that there is no national emergency.

    National Emergencies are not optional.
     
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    ocean515 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So says the guy with the penis jokes....
     
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    Yep. Emergencies require rapid and complex responses. They can't wait for Congressional approval or politics.

    And Trump never said he didn't need to make a National Emergency declaration. Why would you make up something like that?

    You should probably try to engage in some honest discussion if you're going to try and make a point.
     
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    It isn't only a small part of it when the money spent on the wall could be better spent on immigration reform projects that would effect REAL change.
     
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    "Trump never said he didn't need to make a national emergency declaration?"

    Then want did he mean when he said "I didn't have to" and "I didn't need to do this?"

    Tough to say things are so bad it is an emergency and then explain it with "I didn't have to do this," and "I didn't need to do this"
     
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    Actually, you aren't getting it.

    When it comes to impeachment, Congress has impeachment authority over conduct in office. The Democrats want to remove Trump because, like they did with Abraham Lincoln, they refused to accept the election results.

    It appears the Republicans should have forced the DNC to disband after they lost the civil war.
    Did you think your point was that a President could not be civilly sued for acts of sexual harassment committed before he took office?
     
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    Yaawwwwwn.

    The GOP had complete control and did NOTHING.

    Fake emergency from a fake POTUS.
     
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    Presidents Bush and Obama didn't have to send the National Guard to the border but they did.

    Neither the Republicans or Democrats had a problem when they did.

    President Obama declared a national emergency with the swine flue breakout. :eyepopping:

    I'm pretty sure Obama didn't have to.
     
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    Trump is exactly what this shallow narcissistic celebrity-obsessed society of ours deserves.
     
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    The Democrats impeached Abraham Lincoln?

    And a little history lesson for you, those Civil War Democrats were southern conservatives, a segment which today makes up a large portion of the GOP
     
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    The difference being that Obama had the backing of Congress to do so ... he didn't do it to circumvent Congress.
     
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    Or there was no obstructionism and sedition during the Obama administration.
     
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    Was Ebola I believe, and Obama didn't keep the Guard on the border, escalate the numbers, nor pimped them for political ends
     
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    The questionable or unconstitutional acts of one administration do not forgive those of the next administration. "What-about-ism" is a poor argument.
     
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    Your reading comprehension skills suck. Democrats did not accept the results of the 1860 election and the result was civil war, which the Democrats lost and they had to give up Slavery.
    Falsehood and smear. Conservatives are dedicated to CONSERVING our God-given rights, secured by our Constitution, not SLAVERY. It was the DNC that was dedicated to protecting Slavery, Dred Scott and Jim Crow.
     
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    We lost 80,000 people to the flu last year. Is that more of an emergency? Wouldn't any border control money be better spent on developing a universal flu vaccine?

    Rhetorical questions, of course. All this wall nonsense is just a last gasp by some pathetic white Americans to stop the unstoppable demographic changes going on. White men cannot bear the thought of sharing power with women and brown people.
     
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    No, the Democrats came down with Lincoln Derangement Syndrome (LDS) and refused to accept the outcome of the 1860 Presidential election.

    So in response the Democrats resorted to obstructionism and sedition and President Lincoln's response was to send Union troops into the South to end the obstructionism and bring the seceding states back into the Union.

    Sure would be great for America if President Trump would read up on the American Civil War and then send federal troops into California and end the obstructionism and sedition and bring California back into the Union.
     
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    It really is the "Idiocracy" movie come to pass...



     
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    "No obstructionism ...... during the Obama Adminstrarion?" What reality do you live in?

    You've forgotten already the "I hope he fails" and "we're going to do our best to make sure he is a one term President?" The GOP set new records for censure votes and filibuster during that time and you are telling us there was "no obstructionism ...... during the Obama Administration?"
     
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    If you don't NEED to do action X, situation Y that inspired action X can hardly be an emergency, can it?

    It's OK if you don't get it. Judges will.
     
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    No, it was the swine flue.

    Nobody but liberals give a rats ass about ebola in shithole countries.

     
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    A really big shithole known as California.
     
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    Put it in context.

    If members of the New Democratic Party were willing to put their Never Trump agenda aside and listen to the recommendations from ICE/DHS/CBP and others, they would have provided the funding to address the crisis on the border your liberal media has been reporting on. In that case, the President would not have had to take action. No different that declaring an Emergency and moving funds to assist FEMA during other crisis that the Nation faces.

    Since they can't seem to put the Nation ahead of their agenda, the President was required to fulfil the sworn duty of his office.
     
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    I see, now we need a revision of all the American history books changing Confederates to Democrats and the Confederacy to the Democrat Party. Did you really think that the "Radical Republicans" were called that because they were conservatives?

    And Trump can't invade any State, even the military would support a 25th Amendment move on that order
     
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    "I didnt need to do this."

    Trump was discussing the National Emergency Declaration when he made that statement. No effort to spin that direct quote will convince anyone beyond the people who already agree that Trump had the right to declare this issue a national emergency.

    National Emergencies do require rapid and complex responses. Trump had said that he did not need to issue a national declaration, trump said he could wait to see how congressional negotiations unfolded, and he waited two ****ing years before issuing the declaration.
     
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