I get what your saying but its hard to pin point exactly where or what you are. For example im Aussie, i have ancestors shipped out here on the first fleet so could hate the Brits for their evil treatment of the lower classes back then, most were ship off for BS reasons. But England is still the mother country to me. Ive also some dutch in me going way way back, but as far historical records show its all white European countries, once you go back that far theres a good chance your talking thousands of years. Dont get me wrong, i fully understand the left believe white pride means you think your better than other races or code for KKK (hence this thread), i just dont think like that and dont believe it. I dont buy or believe white guilt either, many convicts were treated as bad as slaves and even the word slave comes from the enslaving slavs. All races and cultures have good and bad in their history, i dont expect others to dwell on the bad and likewise i dont as a glass half full type of guy. We're meant to learn and improve on mistakes, which i think we as the West have done, leading the way in human rights and freedoms. Perhaps whites dont have this struggle to bind them together, but lets face facts, the West is predominately white nations, created from white cultures and traditions. Immigration patterns prove that many people around the world want to to enjoy its culture, its freedoms, its prosperity, why not be proud of the achievements? People want to white wash this very culture and history because it may offend which in itself is offensive.
Nah first all I'm Asian, so I'm most likely not going to celebrate with them on their racial pride. I would just chuckle because it makes no sense in a funny way, as I do when I see Asians putting up gang signs yelling AZN PRIDE. Quoting from unknown source: "You have no right to be proud, unless you did it yourself. That goes for anything from racial pride to patriotism. Your race, gender and nationality are (*)(*)(*)(*)ing accidents of birth. Being proud of something you got stuck with when mamma squeezed you out is stupid. You have a right to be proud of your own personal accomplishments, and perhaps those of your children (if you were actually a good parent, and your kids didn't succeed by sheer bloody-mindedness alone). That's it. Your parents (*)(*)(*)(*)ed, Mom got knocked up, and ~9 months later, there you were. Race, gender and nationality handed to you out of some cosmic lottery machine. (*)(*)(*)(*) your white pride, black pride, national pride, and all the horse(*)(*)(*)(*) that goes along with it."
All people should unite against the elite, skin color is not the problem. The elite have been using different versions of divide and rule or divide and conquer for at least the last 2,000 years. To allow that to continue only insures the continued success of the elite. To divide by black vs white, democrat vs republican, middle class vs the lower classes, Christian vs Muslim or any other way to produce animosity and division of the majority. Will only let the system to remain unchallenged. Malcolm X was misled by Elijah Muhammad once he became aware of the actual problem. He was a liability to those seeking to divide. His murder was in my opinion caused by his realization that the problem was not white vs black. I have more in common with the people of different ecotypes, that I grew up with than people that share the same skin tone that I have never known. Most Americans are a mixture of different ancestry, the current social and political contruct of race is inaccurate in describing the population of the US. We live together and reproduce in our current natural environment. We will if we survive long enough completely eliminate the differences that are currently classified as race.
Do you see what you're doing? You're making excuses here because he's not a minority. This is why lumping people into collective groups is such a recipe for failure in the first place. Because it undermines individual experience. It's the same reason claims about things like "white privilege" are such a joke. White privilege didn't save my friend from daily racist abuse. And yet, while it's possible that the law might not have turned a blind eye to him had it seen his troubles, what do you think the honest probability would have been that his abusers would have been charged with a hate crime? Now reverse the colors and ask yourself the same thing. Don't tell me about unequal laws. As for hardly anyone thinking a black president was possible, again this is more of what I was talking about with it being all in what you choose to focus on. If you take a step back and take an honest look at the social sphere, it shouldn't have surprised anyone that President Obama not only got elected with messiah-like fervor but also got re-elected as well. Black is the new white in American pop culture. It's "cool" to be black. It's not cool to be white anymore. Being white often gets made fun of as being lame, weak, and nerdy. And white people even jump on board with this. Hip hop is the most dominant force in pop music. White kids everywhere are dressing, acting, and talking black while the percentage of black kids doing the opposite is virtually zero. White women date black men at a higher rate today than ever before. The country had essentially been waiting for a black president for quite awhile. All it was going to take was a guy with enough charisma (which Obama has in spades) who was a Democrat (which is mandatory). Anything else about his credentials, his plans for the country, or what he stood for was going to be irrelevant. People were going to fall in love with him regardless. Because they were going to see him as a symbol of something they wanted - a color - and not a person. Much like men who view a hot woman as a trophy. If anyone was even the least bit surprised that people who had never before voted in their lives were turning up in droves to vote for President Obama, then I would argue that they have been asleep for quite sometime and had their finger far away from the pulse of the nation.
Leftists, including the feminazis take great pride in the fact that people call themselves gay or queer, as they even have a gay pride parade in N.Y. City, and I imagine they have one in San Fran as well. So if these people can be proud of being queer, then I see no problem for people having WHITE pride. I myself am a proud WHITE Nationalist. Don't blacks have a black history month and a MLK holiday that they take pride in? What was that million man black march in D.C. led by the racist Farrakhan if not a black pride parade?
For the proud white people here who wish to learn more about the ways of their ancestors, I suggest checking out this site: http://www.runestone.org/ Fascinating stuff.
Funny, White pride. Its not cool to be white, its cool to be anything but white, very true. Taught in schools every day, that the White man killed the Indian, the White man was the KKK and killed the blacks. White CEO's are stealing others money. White Politicians are the scum of the Earth. There is a war against White people, it is a war against the USA and those of us that built this country, its a war against Conservatives, its a war against the Constitution. It is seen everywhere, the goal is the complete destruction of the USA period. Not a change to a Liberal Utopia, but literal destruction so that history looks upon the USA as a failed idea.
Yes, absolutely it is wrong for someone to have pride in merely the color of their skin. At the same time, it is good for someone to have pride in their heritage and of what their ancestors might have done which would make anyone proud. That said, the only REAL pride anyone can have stems from ONLY what that person does themselves. In reality, one can only have pride in something they themselves impacted in order to result in something in which one might be proud. You might say you are proud of your government, president, employer and alot of other people/things without having a single thing to do with their accomplishment... therefore, that is not being proud but being fraudulent in your pride by letting others assume you had something to do with which you are taking pride. So.. there is no black, hispanic, white or other colored pride in reality.
Yes. It assumes race holds merit. I am proud of my father. I am not proud for him. We are, largely, products of our environment. It is like being proud of being... good looking. You had (*)(*)(*)(*) all to do with that... being "proud" of something self serving which you had no possible way of affecting, is as stupid as being ashamed for the same. I am not ashamed of myself, because my ancestors owned other peoples ancestors. The notion is stupid. As is the notion that I would be proud of their accomplishments. What "racial pride" is, in all instances, is racism. Go (*)(*)(*)(*)ing do something. Be proud of that.
Why is it so hard to believe that if blacks were prejudiced and biased against solely because of their skin color, that more prejudice and bias would not be possible due to a different skin color? I would be glad to run from a lynch mob if it meant I was running towards a decent paying job.... I would run any gauntlet you want to toss in my way if I can get a job which would pay my families expenses. I would gladly kill dogs or a criminally attacking lynch mob if it meant I could defend myself and support my kids and family by doing so. So.... let me know how to do the job you want me to do............. DOH.
Actually, yes. your post speaks volumes about yourself, you sound very weak, unable to protect yourself, you sound like you need the government to tuck you in at night and make sure your warm and comfy. I bet in real life you are too small to run your mouth, I bet your only brave behind the computer.
Okay people get over your (*)(*)(*)(*) selves. All race means is that your distant (*)(*)(*)(*) ancestors were adated to live in a specific part of the world back in the days before we had the ability to efficiently heat and cool our homes or even had permanent dwellings to heat in cool. Your ethnic group has far more to do with what and who you are than your race. By the way just so you know Arabs and Welshman are the same (*)(*)(*)(*) race. They are different ethnic groups, Jews are racially caucasian but again a different ethnic group. Your cultural heritage means even more to who and what you are but contrary to the teachings of idiots like Jeffrey Leonard race has almost nothing to do with cultural heritage. The Hausa and Falani are racially of Negroid stock theya re ethnically west african if memory serves, But their cultures differe at certain key points and they've been at war with each other almost ever since the rise of Islam. What we need to do in this country is put race in the (*)(*)(*)(*) rear view mirror and never look back. Dweling on it just makes (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s of us all.
Thanks for all the replies, everyone. There were some good points, conversation, and kept civil for the most part. Some closing thoughts - I don't believe it's wrong for whites, blacks, Asians, or Latinos to have pride in their culture, race, or origins. But, it's a fine line to walk. You're crossing the line (IMO) once you start to think in absolute terms concerning your own race, or the race of others. There's a difference between blind hatred, assumptions of superiority/inferiority, and pride, appreciation, or a preference for things typically associated with your race or culture. It does indeed seem to be taboo for whites to be proud, but not so much so for others. I'd have to assume that people instantly equate such a thing with racism, or a belief that one thinks themselves, and those like them, to be superior. But in reality, it's more of a positive identification with the history of your people, accomplishments, culture, etc. There's nothing wrong with that.
Welcome to White History Minute. Besides being able to dominante or conquer almost every civilization on the planet during the last 4,000 years, whites can be appreciated for something called "technology." Here are a few examples: Application of electricity, modern ships, automobiles, motorcycles, airplanes, helcopters, rockets, and spacecraft. Telephone, telegraph, radio and television. Modern industry and the assembly line, the light bulb, and the printing press. Hygeine, modern plumbing, modern medicine, all modern agriculture and pesticides (that wouldn't be able to feed the planet otherwise), and food safety (pasturezation, canning, freezing, etc.). Finally,, freedom and democracy. And now, a word from our multi-culturalist friends....
Pride in an accident of birth? Sounds like a pretty dumb stance to me. Especially as we all started out as little, black Africans.
Yeah, you'll probably get an earful (eyefull rather) over that one. - - - Updated - - - It's fine if you feel that way, so long as you apply the same standard towards everyone.
Can you still get that? Haven't seen it in years, nor 'Wonderloaf' for that matter. Nostalgia ain't what it used to be...
Be proud because your ancestors chose to spent the ice age in the coldest continent that was already claimed by others (Neanderthals) who by way had a rough one with you (ancestral) mother . YAY! We come from such a small population that we are all brothers ( specially the non Sub-Saharan ones ) , silly divisions are just circle-jerk
You believe there is something inherent in the color of your skin, not culture, that promotes innovation? Something inherent that makes you superior? Why is it that almost all of those innovations came from the United States do you figure... with all those inferior races running around instead of... say Norway? I guess this also means that you are inferior to Asians... who had developed currency and an economy when your ancestors were still drawing on cave walls with their own feces... who conquered most of the known world... who continued to develop and micronize the technologies we use day to day... who have the ability to manufacture these technologies... and continually kick other races asses scholastically, socially and intellectually. How does that feel... being so inferior to small Asians? (*)(*)(*)(*)ing stupid.
While I don't identify as white primarily I think I and other can feel proud of being white. I mean, we're the race that went around the world and brutally pwned the others. You can't argue with that. white power!
We are not the first, nor are we likely to be the last... nor is conquering people something I think should really be a point of pride. Defending ones self is noble... crushing people and taking their stuff... well... I think you are going the wrong way on the meter.
